• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

20 years ago tonight the Enterprise finale aired. So....what's your opinion two decades on?

Usually so-called 'Bad Trek' or 'Good Trek' goes through periods in which it is critically reevaluated. Heads cool, feelings change and time softens blows and heals all wounds.

A bad episode usually has at least one fan out there too. Usually.

It says a lot about TATV that it has never been though the former and is entirely lacking in the latter. It really is that hated.

I haven't watched it since about 2008. Might be a good idea to crack it on and have another look.
 
Usually so-called 'Bad Trek' or 'Good Trek' goes through periods in which it is critically reevaluated. Heads cool, feelings change and time softens blows and heals all wounds.

A bad episode usually has at least one fan out there too. Usually.

It says a lot about TATV that it has never been though the former and is entirely lacking in the latter. It really is that hated.

I haven't watched it since about 2008. Might be a good idea to crack it on and have another look.
Please seek help from your nearest mental institution immediately!
That kind of self harm ideation is not good at all!! :ouch:
 
Please seek help from your nearest mental institution immediately!
That kind of self harm ideation is not good at all!! :ouch:
Sad thing is, it's not a horrible episode per se. Not the way "Profit and Lace" was. With a few tweaks and different placement, it could be a decent but unexceptional fanservice.
 
As a midseason sweeps episode to cement the series in the canon as not some alternate timeline created by First Contact and establishing that the 1701-D in TNG knew who Archer was and his history it might have worked. As a series (and era of the franchise) swan song it's downright terrible.
 
Sad thing is, it's not a horrible episode per se. Not the way "Profit and Lace" was. With a few tweaks and different placement, it could be a decent but unexceptional fanservice.
Its the most horrible piece of media ever created in the history of all television.
Including TNG Code of Honor.
As a midseason sweeps episode to cement the series in the canon as not some alternate timeline created by First Contact and establishing that the 1701-D in TNG knew who Archer was and his history it might have worked. As a series (and era of the franchise) swan song it's downright terrible.
Just think for a moment: for all his faults we owe much more to JJ Abrams than we realized.
 
J.J. and Jason Lin did love to reference Archer and ENT. For whatever flaws their versions of Trek have, at least ENT got some long-delayed affection out of those films.
 
I never won't feel all sorts of warm nerdy feelings about this reference to the Xindi and the Earth-Romulan War in Beyond.

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.
 
Agreed. Code of Honor would have been problematic no matter where you stuck it. TATV as anything but a series finale could have been OK fanservice, with a few tweaks.

Code of Honour or not. It's not 'the most horrible piece of media created in the history of television'. I really can't stand such polemic language.

TATV is bad Star Trek but there's things out there produced over the last century that are way worse.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top