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20 years ago tonight the Enterprise finale aired. So....what's your opinion two decades on?

cooleddie74

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May 13, 2005.

"Terra Prime" airs at 8pm Eastern Standard Time and then, an hour later, "These Are The
Voyages..." decorates our TV screens for the next fifty-odd minutes, ending not only Enterprise as a series but the Star Trek franchise as it had existed for the previous 18 years. The Classic Era of Trek that had begun on NBC on the night of September 8, 1966, and continued through five more live action and animated series, 646 TV episodes and 10 theatrical movies drew to a close as the flyby of the three Enterprises placed a bookend on the franchise as we then knew it and the voices of Patrick Stewart, William Shatner and Scott Bakula eased us into a world that would be Trekless for the next four years, at least when it came to all-new canonical story content.

"TATV..." is an unmitigated disaster as a series finale and an even bigger whipped cream pie to the face of the franchise as a whole, one that went into a four-year slumber after that night and had ended its Legacy run on the most unpopular and bad taste-inducing series farewell of any it had ever produced, and this is a franchise that gave us William Shatner body swapping with a woman and then hammily vamping it up on the Enterprise in ways that would have made even Benny Hill do a double take the camera.

It's not a good episode outside of the closing flyby and the production values, which in ENT were consistently pretty excellent across all four seasons of the series. The actors gave it their best with the shoddy material Berman and Braga gave them, and seeing Jeffrey Combs return for his swan song as Shran was a definite strong point for the finale. Had the "Riker and Troi visit the NX-01 on the holodeck to learn a valuable historical lesson" plot been used for a Sweeps Week episode mid-season to goose the ratings of the series then it might well have actually worked, but as a series finale....yikes. What a creative misfire.

20 years haven't softened the blow all that much, and while it's easier to look back after two decades and see the love that ENT and the Archer Era of Starfleet history have received from not only the writers of streaming Trek but also the Kelvin Timeline movies and revel in the respect and warm feelings that ENT is now (rightfully) receiving after four years as the franchise's redheaded stepchild, "TATV..." is not a good episode. It's one of the lowpoints of small screen Trek during its first forty years and while not morally offensive in any way or a juvenile roll in the mud that would be awkward and goofy even for an episode of a Sid & Marty Krofft series, it's nothing to get excited about.

What are your thoughts as approach 20 years to the moment since Classic Trek transitioned from "the current stuff" to Legacy stories?
 
I think that nearly nonstop run from TNG to the end of ENT was a special time. It wasn't all perfect, some of it was awful, but like pizza, most of it was pretty good, even when it wasn't great, and a lot of it was great. we got more trek than we deserved, but that level of intensity was too difficult to keep going, those cracks had already formed with VOY and ENT was a patch job.

Enterprise is a show i never get tired of revisiting. It's odd: I'm not an archer fan. I don't much care for season 1, apart from a few episodes. I don't have faith of the heart.

Still: Enterprise is like the comfort food of TV Trek for me. I liked what they attempted to do in terms of world building. I like the crew. I like the Xindi Arc, and the subsequent min-arcs. I think if Manny Coto had had more time at the helm it would be regarded as one of the best or the best trek series. but there wasn't enough time. It's telling that there are so many callbacks to Enterprise in subsequent movies and productions. It was a foundation where there hadn't really been one before.
 
I feel like I am one of the few who really enjoyed "Enterprise" when it was first aired. The scheduling was terrible and it moved around time slots and days so I watched about half of the first season then they moved the time slot then I found it late one night (11:30 on Friday) with the third season episode "Carpenter Street which I thought was great. Apparently, here locally the network it was on lost its affiliate, so the shows on the Paramount Network were shown after the late local news. Anyway, watched the rest of the series until it ended and have since watched the entire series many times. I will have to go back and watch TATV, to reevaluate it. After trying to get through the newer series (particularly "Discovery"), it may be better than I remember!! lol
 
S4 is my least favorite of ENT. I think the 2nd half of S2 was ENT finding its footing before what would have been its stride--the middle of TNG S3, Seven joining VOY, "Move Along Home" in DS9, for examples.

I wasn't a big fan on S3 but I was willing to go along for the ride for the characters.

S4 just felt like it was produced to be aired Fridays at 10:00 PM EST between Silk Stalkings and Up All Night.
 
I keep saying "TATV" could have been a great episode. The premise in theory is solid, it just fucked up the execution. The fixes were simple. Riker and Troi on the Titan. No holodeck and just flashbacks. Honouring NX-01's legacy and not shoehorning them into Riker's personal story. Maybe not even retiring NX-01 or killing off Trip. Too many finales are about breaking the characters up and sending everyone on their separate ways. Should it have been the series finale? Eh probably not. I still haven't finished Season 4 but when I do Enterprise will be the first Trek show I've watched every episode of, which is kind of hilarious to me.
 
Killing Trip was inexcusable. I still remember watching it at my sister's house and being thoroughly disappointed. It was like watching your friend get into a car crash.
 
Yeah, Trip's sacrifice was just the 2005 TV version of doing a cool, viral watercooler stunt to get people talking. But since it was the series finale there was no point in the shock value for the sake of shock.
 
The more time has passed, the more I think TATV should have been a regular episode and Demons and Terra Prime should have been the actual finale. Heck, TATV should have been before Demons. I think if that was the case, it would have went down better. As a finale it just didn't work.
 
I still love it. I still wish it had gotten 7 seasons, and the time to explore Trip/T'Pol as a metaphor for human/Vulcan relations, and the chance to watch the Archer/Soval partnership grow. I wish we'd seen Shran join the crew - say, stuck on ENT, probably as punishment for losing his ship, in some kind of exchange with Andoria, and clashing/bonding more with Archer and T'Pol. And of course I'll always wish Lorian and E2 made it back into the ENT-verse - perhaps to take part in the Romulan War storyline, pave the way for families aboard ships, and contribute to the T/T storyline.

Considering Manny Coto's tragic early passing, it would have been so special to have him as showrunner for ENT for 3 more seasons. I think he would have done great things.

I really enjoyed the character interplay on the show, the wonderful actors, the solid direction and cinematography, the beautiful music. It remains my favorite of the post-TOS shows.
 
I still hate it, it was a TNG episode (and not even a good one) guest starring the Enterprise cast. It might have worked as an idea for a regular episode but as a finale it was a slap in the face of the regular characters.

Killing Trip was inexcusable. I still remember watching it at my sister's house and being thoroughly disappointed. It was like watching your friend get into a car crash.
If he had at leas sacrificed himself for something meaningful, like a shuttle full of children about to fly into a black hole or something. But he did it so Archer wouldn't be late to his speech.
 
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