Aladdin live-action teaser trailer

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  1. LJones41

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    Personally, I think that is a stupid thing to do. I've seen good movies with bad trailers and bad movies with good trailers. I don't think a trailer is a great way to judge a film. But if you want to use the easy way, via a trailer, knock yourself out.
     
  2. JD

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    You can't judge the whole film, but it does at least give you an idea of what to expect. And there's a pretty good chance if the trailer doesn't appeal to you, then the movie won't.
    There is a big difference between saying you aren't interested in a movie based on the trailer, and saying that the movie is bad.
     
  3. Guy Gardener

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    80 percent of what Robin's Genie said in the first movie was adlibs.

    I doubt that Will will be given such cart blanch.
     
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  4. Professor Zoom

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    Smith’s face is the least wrong with the genie cgi. It’s the arms and body for me, how they move.
     
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  5. M'rk son of Mogh

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    Who's judging the movie?

    We're all judging the awful CGI.
     
  6. Professor Zoom

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    I’ve also seen lots and lots of trailers that accurately showed the experience of the film. I’m more than happy to spend my time and money wisely, but if you want to always take the costly way out, knock yourself out.
     
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  7. fireproof78

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    This isn't judging the film itself. It's look at what was presented and making a subjective assessment of interest.

    If that's the "easy way" then I'll take it.
     
  8. FormerLurker

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    The Hulk was done the same way as Thanos. Each time, with Eric Bana, Ed Norton, and finally Mark Ruffalo, a scan of their face was stretched over the frame for the character so the features would be consistent between the two 'sides' of his personality.

    Much of the script for the Genie in the Broadway production was taken directly from Robin's ad libs. I expect the remake to be done much the same way.
     
  9. Owain Taggart

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    No, not at all. It's hard to make a fair judgement based on the short clip, but maybe I expected something a bit different than what I was hearing. Maybe it will be better in the full movie? I'm willing to be wrong on that one. I get it though that he'll a be a different genie, and it's likely better in the end that he put his own stamp on it.

    Yeah, I think you've got it. It's created a visual mismatch.
     
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  10. CorporalCaptain

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    That wasn't the reason why "CG Tarkin" didn't work. It didn't work because it was still in the uncanny valley, which is a real thing, albeit hard to quantify precisely. In fact, the lack of a precise (prescriptive) quantification of the uncanny valley is exactly why the state of the art still falls short of convincing human facsimiles.

    Part of what you're saying is on the right track, though. Animators have learned, without knowing precisely what causes the uncanny value, that better results are achieved when animators don't attempt perfect human facsimiles and instead go for characters with obviously cartoonish features.

    As others have said, they used the actors' faces as the bases of the Hulk faces, but the fact that the character did not need to pass as perfectly human in the first place helped sell the illusion immensely.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley
     
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  11. Owain Taggart

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    Yeah, it might be too late to change, but they should have stylized his face more to help avoid the uncanny valley effect.
     
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  13. Professor Zoom

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    Still a big meh for me.
    I'll stick with the cartoon.
    I'm also sure this make gobs of money.
     
  14. CorporalCaptain

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    That's an improvement, actually. Of course having Will Smith in human form certainly eliminates the uncanny valley problem altogether for those scenes....
     
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    Same here. While Will Smith doesn't look quite as ridiculous, I'm still underwhelmed by the whole thing. It's impressive that something that looks so colorful can come off as so bland.
     
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  16. Professor Zoom

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    Yep. The costume design is great. But they are clearly still working on the CGI for Aladdin. He’s still stiff looking. Almost wooden. They really shouldn’t rush trailers until all the work is done.
     
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  17. CorporalCaptain

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    Yep.
     
  18. Amaris

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    Ah, now see? For me, that's much better. I wanted just a little taste of Will Smith's humor to get a feel for how he was going to approach Genie. The other actors in the trailer seem just fine, and it looks interesting. This will be a DVD rental (with possible purchase if I really enjoy it), but yeah, this kind of restores my hope that it will be a good adaptation.
     
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  19. Janeway’s Girl

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    Also Alan Tudyk is voicing Iago.

    My one critique of the trailer is that Jafar doesn’t sound evil and menacing.
     
  20. Gaith

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