Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

^"Idiots?" Operation Insight's targets included such people as Bruce Banner and Stephen Strange (according to a certain sleeper agent) and Tony Stark and the President of the United States (according to the targeting graphics). Aspiring tyrants don't want to kill off idiots, they want to kill off the people smart enough to see through their lies.

 

Hydra compared the relative worth of everyone alive based on their given personal information and test scores etc finding those who weren't worth bringing into their new world order.

Some of those targetted were threats, the Avengers, those who might side with them etc

But they targetted nearly a million people in NYC alone, if Insight had done the same for every population center we're talking tens of millions at least. Those can't all be Bruce Banners or Tony Starks of the world, they wanted to clear out the "weaker/lesser" parts of society.

Eugenics at sniper point. Really really friggin big sniper emplacements but still.

 

I would say their actions count. Wikipedia interprets genocide as:

And in regards to ethnicity:

 

Spoiler: Still really? Still?

1. The guns were tracking genetic markers. They killed the family of every one that scored a failing grade.

2. The number of targets recited several times was "20 million".

 

I don't think "a threat to Hydra" qualifies as an ideology.

 

Basically it was a mass assassination (try saying that five times fast).

 

Its such a pity about the ratings because this show has been improving for some time now. The DVR audience is close to 50% I believe so hopefully ABC will see that and consider a revamp of their lineup next season if they keep the show.

 

If Hydra had won, no bastard would know about Hydra as anything but memorabilia from the second world war.

It's still America in name.

Hell it's still America in fact.

The change in America from before 911 to after 911.

"That"

They want to do that again.

But bigger.

The ruling class of Hydra already governed 616 and probably still leads 616 from behind the curtain.

They just wanted to streamline and maximize their ruling experience.

If you really get down to it, if they can make the world %10 percent easier to rule, then they they can each take a %10 longer holiday.

And that's about it.

It wasn't a question of ruling the Earth, it was the sad fact that they wanted to rule a better Earth.

Create a safer Earth that will survive, fuck it, thrive without their constant meddling by adhering to their political leanings.

It's like how your mommy used to force you to eat your Brussels sprouts no matter how hard you pouted and held your breath.

It's just a question of pride.

 

Wasn't arguing progenocide, just antifamily.

Consider, if siblings and children and parents are close enough to be autotargetted and fired on, then if the program had selected 20 million specific targets, the guns would have hit twice, three, four times that number which they gave us in the movie... The only thing from stopping them killing a billion people is that I doubt that there were a billion bullets on those hellicarriers or a billion people in New York State.

They showed us a target playing base ball with his kid, unless they showed us a target playing baseball with his dad, but they were less than ten feet away from each other with familial DNA. Any way you look at it, they were both getting large holes in them.

 

I wasn't saying they were targeting a social group, I was commenting more on the second part of that definition with "ethnic group" being associated with a shared ideology, those who won't succumb to fear.

That's why I deleted it seconds after posting it, thinking that's a bit extreme but AoS didn't have Hyrda performing genocide (just a carrier crashing and burning on a screen in the back) so we shouldn't be talking about it like we are (which I started by saying genocide). If you want to continue this conversation, jump over to the Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread.

I imagine it has something to do with those who haven't seen CA:TWS yet and don't have DVR's.

 

I believe those were the bases that were still under Hydra control, so that map could potentially play into matters as the remaining SHIELD loyalists try to fight back.

 

^The DOG HYDRA leaves its mark again.

 

How long before we see a KEEP CALM AND HAIL HYDRA one?

(Checks Google) Oh. Of course.

 

I'm posting this anyway

 

Which is the sort of thing I was responding to over on Facebook.