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8X04 "Listen" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!
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IIRC, BBC told him it couldn't be Series 5. They gave him the choice of Series 31 (if I did my math right) or Series 11-1 (for 11th Doctor, Series 1). Moffat chose the latter.
Obviously, the name didn't stick and they went back to Series 5.
Well yeah, he actually took some risks and tried to do some bold things and take full advantage of the storytelling possibilities at the heart of the show. How dare he.
He obviously should have just kept to telling the same straightforward stories as in the classic series, with the same obvious villains and monsters, and not done anything to upset the hardcore fans.
Fair enough, but I don't think one should throw their arms up in the air and say "How could anyone possibly think this is ego-driven?".
Actaully Moffat and RTD made and are making one major mistake they made on the old series, that is escalating the menace. Pretty much every season the Doctor is now saving the universe from destruction from some new menace. They knew that on the old show and brought the threat level down a bit.
This season the threats have been pretty reasonable, heck we just dealt with the Doctor's bad dreams. 
One thing is certain: anyone who thinks in those terms has never written anything professionally.
I'm projecting this season will have a sad and or tragic end. I just remembered something. Fear is not the Doctor's constant companion, it's DEATH!
Wouldn't it be so tragic for Clara to die and her future with Danny and great grandchild Orson to never exist after being established?
You think Moffat would pull the rug out from under us like that? Or would he play it clean and have Clara leave the Doctor on good terms?
Wouldn't it be so tragic for Clara to die and her future with Danny and great grandchild Orson to never exist after being established?
You think Moffat would pull the rug out from under us like that? Or would he play it clean and have Clara leave the Doctor on good terms?
Looks like a blond kid with curly hair to me. It's just deliberately blurred out so you can't see.
Could be a kid. I would say a girl with longer hair. Hard to tell. The back light is distorting the head shape and the blurry front allows it to be anything.
They deliberately set the scene up this way.
All you can really see is a head from the eyes up.
They deliberately set the scene up this way.
All you can really see is a head from the eyes up.
I'd add this. Given that they intentionally blurred the person out to not be visible, is there anyone who thinks they would have gone to the trouble of giving that person make-up to be an alien? Even if its supposed to be an alien, they wanted it to be ambiguous and not seen. I could see giving makeup if they planned to show him later, but they didn't.
Maybe there's a young silence at the orphanage.
that does not look human. It looks like a cross between a Sontaran and a Silence. that actually makes me feel better about the episode. there WAS an alien!
So, am I the only one that thinks Master Pink is an incredibly boring character played by a lifeless actor?
I just realized what this episode is. It's Shyamalan's The Village. It starts out being really cool and creepy with these mysterious terrifying creatures.... then it turns out to be absolutely nothing
So, am I the only one that thinks Master Pink is an incredibly boring character played by a lifeless actor?
I just realized what this episode is. It's Shyamalan's The Village. It starts out being really cool and creepy with these mysterious terrifying creatures.... then it turns out to be absolutely nothing
I just don't think he's had a chance to do anything yet. He's more of a plot device than a character at this point.
I'm going with the interpretation that whatever the "Listeners" are, they're exceptionally blurry. Perhaps through some kind of EM field (or some such thing, I haven't kept up on my physics) or property of their skin/body that bends and scatters light around them. It is the only way I can make sense of the thing under the blanket being more "out of focus" than the blanket.
Or it's a kid wearing a mask.
Unlikely though, since children pull pranks for the "gotcha moment"/scare. I doubt a child would be able to compose themself long enough in the presence of Rupert and 2 adults as long as the creature underneath the blanket. So my vote is there was a monster under the sheet and there was a monster in the Tardis and on the other side of the door.
Unlikely though, since children pull pranks for the "gotcha moment"/scare. I doubt a child would be able to compose themself long enough in the presence of Rupert and 2 adults as long as the creature underneath the blanket. So my vote is there was a monster under the sheet and there was a monster in the Tardis and on the other side of the door.
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