Woad-covered Celts: the original Blue Man Group.
1960's and risqué clothes?
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It was societal oppression that kept them blue and naked...........
Not again!!!!
too add to that a good deal of what was "commonly" known about the Celts was from Caesar's "The Gallic War" which was widely read and was intended by the author to be a big PR win for a war that had dragged on, wasn't popular with all parts of society, and whose leader (Julius Ceasar) was in quite a bit of legal trouble at home. He needed support, and the best way to do that was to portray Gauls and Britons ans nearly-animal savages intent who if left unattended would sack Rome again.
Caesar had almost bent the world completely to his will. Had he not been assassinated who knows how history would have developed.
hard to say. those historical what if's always are. Mark Anthony may have eventually rebelled against him. Gnaeus Pompeius would have still been a problem. If Caesar had lived and for whatever reason, acknowledged Caesarion as his son, that might also have undermined him. Ultimately I don't think he would have had a peaceful life, regardless.
I think this thread has gone off the rails.
When do you mean?I think this thread has gone off the rails.
I shall call this thread: Amtrak Dining Car. 
I think this thread has gone off the rails.
Naked Celts have hijacked this thread!
Nae King! Nae Quin! Nae Laird! Nae Lawyers!
Indeed, there's a lot of linguistic and genetic evidence that what we have assumed to be vast movements of "Celtic" peoples up through Europe to the British Isles may well have been anything but, with cultural markers being far more prominent than DNA as indicators of such migrations, thus indicating that the spread of languages may have been more a property of trade routes than mobile populations displacing each other.
In point of fact the entire premise of a deep south European heritage for a coherent group at all is based on some very shaky primary sources indeed, ones which would be dismissed out of hand if they were introduced fresh in modern academia.
Could be worse. They could be naked-cut, blue, berserk, red bowlheads. And no, I have no desire to find out what that would even look like.
We are doing a Star Trek theme for Halloween. Have any of you ever made an original series costume? I don't know how hard it would be to get the right color shirt, hoping for blue? This would be not sewing a pattern but going and looking at thrift shops and such. I think I could add the details once I find the right thing. Want to do this myself. any ideas or thoughts would be great thanks!
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Edit to add: neither of us is much into sewing. More like scouting the thrift shops looking for the right lines and colors.
They're pretty cheap on ebay.
I don't think you can make them yourself cheaper.
However if you want to do it yourself...
Back years ago before they had the cheap ones available I made ,myself a men's uniform shirt and a child shirt and a child's dress for my daughter. I got the pattern from the Franz Joseph's technical manual .It was a nightmare because I'm not a great sewer either.
I've worked in thrift shop and its very difficult getting a block coloured dress or top especially in the gold or blue.
What I did last year was get a red skivvy and sew gold ric-rac on it for the stripes. I already had a red skirt so the red skirt and long sleeved top looked OK together along with back stockings and black boots.
I considered dyeing a white skivvy blue but the dye was $20 so better for me to pay $30 on ebay for a shirt rather than an uncertain dye job for me anyway.
I tried iron-on material to put on the delta symbol and stripes on but it kept coming off so I just used a white postal label sticker coloured with a gold paint pen and cut up in the stripe and delta shapes.
Instead of the delta, we're likely to get or make TNG-era commbadges just because they're cooler. If anyone calls us on it, we'll say we've been time-traveling.
So, coming back around to the whole miniskirt debate, I reconnected with Andrea Weaver, who was the women's wardrobe person on TOS for the 2nd and 3rd seasons. She literally put (sometimes sewed) the women into their costumes, so she handled them daily.
She said that under the skirts they used "standard dancer briefs" [dyed to match the uniform], and that the the idea of some sort of leg panel or such is "completely unauthentic". We've seen our share of upskirt shots on the show and this seems to jibe with her description.
When asked about the uniform colors, she said the idea was to use primary colors: red, blue and green instead of yellow. The green was green (not gold or lime -nothing with yellow added). She explains that blue is a very unstable color—"especially in L.A." (presumably referring to the garment district)—and when you see uniforms decades on they have lost their blue AND faded, so you don't see the original color. You can see this in the blue uniforms as well, many of which have color-shifted towards a pale purple.
So there you go. From about as primary a source as you can get.
She said that under the skirts they used "standard dancer briefs" [dyed to match the uniform], and that the the idea of some sort of leg panel or such is "completely unauthentic". We've seen our share of upskirt shots on the show and this seems to jibe with her description.
When asked about the uniform colors, she said the idea was to use primary colors: red, blue and green instead of yellow. The green was green (not gold or lime -nothing with yellow added). She explains that blue is a very unstable color—"especially in L.A." (presumably referring to the garment district)—and when you see uniforms decades on they have lost their blue AND faded, so you don't see the original color. You can see this in the blue uniforms as well, many of which have color-shifted towards a pale purple.
So there you go. From about as primary a source as you can get.
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