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thank you! I don't get why that is so hard for some Trekkies to understand. If they can tell new stories with Kirk and co, they can do the same thing with Khan or any other old character they choose to use. I bet you'll find there's more than one way to tell a Khan story... who has only been...

Indeed. This is a red herring. Has everyone forgotten they were auditioning Hispanic actors before they settled on Benedict Cumberbatch - who comes across as a choice of casting against type. I mean, does Benicio Del Toro strike anyone as the Gary Mitchell. (Its been awhile since I...

The only thing required is if the screenwriter(s) think they have a story which they might want tell. And also of course Paramount's stamp of approval. Which would I think largely be dependent upon how they think they can market the film.

Why would you change any of that? And I don't remember that bit about the DNA... though its been implied augments are unstable I can't remember it being stated so equivocally or not reparable. There's no purpose to turn him into a woman yet you can forgo Space Seed altogether by giving Khan...

Thank you!!! Just because a fan can't think of a way... it does not follow that there is no way to do it. Fans often exist in a state of tunnel vision where they can't get past their own preconceptions. As I've often said. Part of the reason for having an alternate reality is to give a new...

There are an infinite number of ways for it to work out. For all we know the Narada ran across Botany Bay and in doing so, activated the sleeping chambers at just the right time to awaken Khan and crew, which later allowed for them to establish an empire for themselves long before Kirk or Earth...

Grrrrrr! Just because you're using the same characters, a "rehash" does not it make. Look I can't say for certain Khan will be in the next movie - but like I keep saying, it would be stupid of them NOT to utilize an iconic Trek villain... with a whole new set of variables at play, it is NOT a...

Re: Plot hole shitty: Part 4!!!! So are the threads going to zero back to 1, when the new movie premieres, or will they just keep going from whatever numeral they're at?

I'm thinking "plot hole" now = "It was made by JJ Abrams, in his own style, and sense of storytelling". Or - "I don't like it, so it must be wrong". But that just comes from observing these boards for an extended period of time.

And again - this is a conceit of fiction and storytelling not just Star Trek. Not a flaw by any means, or a mistake on JJ Abrams part. In point of fact, its JJ Abrams sticking to storytelling 101...

That's what they're (the actor) being paid for. Not to have the solution fall into the lap of a bit player. Yes, you utilize your main actors or characters as much as you are able to, in order to tell the story you're telling. It may not be realistic, but its also not real. If that's our...

Sure, but the thing with fiction - you try to keep the spotlight on your heroes, not some random person occupying the set. That's just part of fiction. Its hardly a plot hole or even a flaw. I mean, realistically (and Star Trek has never been realistic...) the Enterprise should not always be...

Indeed. I always got the implication from "The Neutral Zone" that mystery of the ridges was to be later explored but got dropped along the way, as I think it was somehow tied to the "Borg" before they were rethought as cybernetic beings. In any event, ridges were dumb.

Oh look, a new thread... Is this going to go on until the next movie comes out? Will that thread be started even before it debuts?

Thank you! There's nothing new under the sun. Writers are often able to take snippets of material and go with them and expand upon them in wild new directions. Its the nature of storytelling. I'd assert such limitations often inspire more creativity then having whole appendices to work out of...

See this is one of those scenes where they might have stopped the forward movement of the movie to explain to us (spoon feed) everything that was going on. Instead Abrams and Co. did not insult our intelligence and let us put two and two together ourselves. I don't get how some didn't figure...

I think we did, it was the first meeting between human and Vulcan, it did not go smoothly, and ended with a lot of green blood being spilled. Plus technological plunder... Though as Mike Sussman explained it, it always has been divergent and that was simply to illustrate that point, history...

Star Trek is not dead... Just ask JJ Abrams. If anything made Trek dull and therefore "kill it" it would have to be writers being forced to write within "GR's Box". when what counts as "Good Star Trek" is something different from what makes good drama, everything is bound to suffer and the...

The one thing this movie has done for me, is cause me to lower my expectations of Star Trek fans intelligence, as has been pointed out in this thread. Many "plot holes" are nothing of the sort and just a lack of understanding or deliberate misstatements by the anger/bitter fans.

The Federation President refers to the evacuation of Kronos while giving a speech at Khitomer. And I think the "one" part is just a translation for a Klingon number and so it would sound correct to normal human beings watching it. I see no reason the leader of the Klingon Empire wouldn't have...