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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x09 – “300th Night”

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Rate the episode ...

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Interesting that Kirsten Beyer wrote this episode in which Omega-47 is identified as "a synthetic variant of pure Omega". That line sounds lifted from Beyer's previous Star Trek: Voyager novels, which depict all Omega molecules as imperfect recreations of the Omega force from the Big Bang. The dialogue doesn't really make sense in isolation with only the Star Trek: Voyager television dialogue.
 
Campe said:
Nice action/adventure episode. I still wonder if Mama Mir isn’t hiding something. Braka’s plan is interesting. I do wonder if we’ll see Disco in the finale to help Athena. The only ship that could get past the barricade. 8/10.
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I'm guessing Discovery probably won't show up since the bridge set is likely long gone, and there's no real setup for it. In Universe, it could be justified by:

  • The Omega mines blocking communication? It's unclear if that's happening already since Reno wasn't getting a response. The end shot appears to show a large barrier around the Federation with the mines not yet detonated. If they're triggered they destroy subspace and the presumably they could cut off the subspace Mycelial network.
  • Discovery not wanting to chance triggering the mines by crossing the border with the Mycelial network.
  • No real destination to jump to yet. They don't know where Braka is. Maybe the Athena wouldn't be able to communicate with Starfleet once they figure it out.

I'm not sure what is up with Anisha. It seems like she's concealing the extent of her past cooperation with Braka and the Venari Ral and is very handy with engineering. But, it seems like she's on the run from them without many resources. Presumably she has some knowledge that will help the Athena stop Braka next episode.

In any case, I don't see how their meeting in this episode could have been planned. Apparently Caleb could have gotten these messages at any point in the past two years once he figured out the password.

tenmei said:
Where is Kelrec? Had he already beamed down to Betazed or did he get left behind on Earth again?
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He was a hologram on Athena in this episode, so he was probably already on Betazed with the War College cadets or on another ship.
 
GothicPudding said:
  • The Omega mines blocking communication? It's unclear if that's happening already since Reno wasn't getting a response. The end shot appears to show a large barrier around the Federation with the mines not yet detonated.
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I think the barrier was a visual representation rather than literal. If O-47 can destabilise an entire sector, you probably don't want the mines close enough that accidentally setting one off will cause a chain reaction, so they must be significantly spread out. Also, there must be some sort of sensitivity to the mine field that it won't get set off by stellar objects, such as comets, which will probably be our resolution - not unlike Legend of the Rangers where the Liandra hides from enemy scand in the tail of a comet.[/list]
 
Enterprise1701 said:
Interesting that Kirsten Beyer wrote this episode in which Omega-47 is identified as "a synthetic variant of pure Omega". That line sounds lifted from Beyer's previous Star Trek: Voyager novels, which depict all Omega molecules as imperfect recreations of the Omega force from the Big Bang. The dialogue doesn't really make sense in isolation with only the Star Trek: Voyager television dialogue.
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FredH said:
A sphere small enough to just contain two stars, Sol and Alpha Centauri, would still have a surface area of 60 square light-years. So even that’s going to be difficult, if potentially doable given Trek-level tech and ranges.

Punch that up to 60-70 star systems (even assuming they happen to be bunched up next to each other instead of, as would be more likely, sprinkled across a much larger space with plenty of nonmember or uninhabited stars filling out the spaces between them), and a sphere encompassing 60-70 stars separated by about a parsec each would have a surface area of 830 square light-years.

A sphere large enough to contain the actual nearest 60 stars to Sol would, apparently, have a surface area of 3,100 square light-years.

It may not be the Federation at its height, but it’s kind of a lot.
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Considering 1 Omega Molecule has the same energy output as a "Full Sized Warp Core", I wonder how many millions of Omega-47 Molecules StarFleet/UFP must've created as a energy alternative to Dilithium based Warp Cores during the "AfterMath of The Burn".
'The Burn' happened in 3069, USS Discovery solved the mystery behind the origins of 'The Burn' in 3189.
There's 120 years of a very dark period of time for the UFP to be doing research on Omega-47.

The species that Janeway stole their Omega molecules from managed to synthesize 200 million Omega Molecules before she pilfered them.
In 120 years of Post-Burn living, how many Millions of Omega-47 molecules do you think the UFP might've synthesized in it's Secret R&D Black Sites?

Especially if you only need 1 Molecule to have the same power output as a "Full Sized Warp Core".

Even in 3D space over 60-70 Member Worlds, I think it's do-able to fence the UFP in if you have the resources of a proper Nation State and a very well planned Government / Military.

Brus Naka seems more like 'Hannibal of Carthage' than 'Hannibal Lecter'.
Any (Psycho-Path/Serial-Killer) portrayals seems to be a giant (decoy/facade/show) for his real "End Game" to isolate the UFP & preventing them from spreading.
Similar to how 'Hannibal of Carthage' "Hated Rome".
 
tenmei said:
I think the barrier was a visual representation rather than literal. If O-47 can destabilise an entire sector, you probably don't want the mines close enough that accidentally setting one off will cause a chain reaction, so they must be significantly spread out.
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Indeed. I suspect that the mines are so far apart that a ship could easily fly between them without itself getting damaged. I think the threat here is more "if you try to cross the Federation border, you'll make a bunch of Federation space unnavigable" versus "if you try to cross, you yourself will be blown up"

I did find it interesting that, compared to all the possible alternatives, Nus' plan is actually quite humane (not directly harming the Federation, but simply letting it exist within its own borders). As others have pointed out in this and other threads, it makes Nus look more ideologically driven and less someone who is cruel solely for cruelty's sake. It certainly confused Ake and Vance, who were expecting an attack.
 
EmoBorg said:
t makes no sense to me that they would build a huge quanity of omega 47 mines to enclose the Federation Space. Space is 3D and the UFP is massive.
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Unless a single mine has a huge radius. Remember how destructive omega is, A single molecule can destroy several light years of subspace.
Enterprise1701 said:
I think in a previous episode, there was the label "Osnullus homeworld". What an utterly lazy label!
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Or maybe the Osnullus don't have a name for their homeworld.
cooleddie74 said:
I didn't even realize the Nog Dance was visible in the background until now!
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Where was this?
 
FredH said:
A good episode. Though… to surround the entire Federation, would they not have needed an utterly impossible number of mines?
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A single omega molecule can destroy several light years of subspace (it was never said how many), it doesn't need to be an impossible number of mines, just some mines with a lot of omega molecules.
firehawk12 said:
presumably the spore drive still exists in this future too.
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Smear-Gel said:
The concept of blocking off Federation Space to cut them off from everyone else is a really interesting idea. If only there were a ship in the era that has a special warp drive capable of ignoring distance and teleporting to a location without having to travel the distance, that's been brought up a number of times in the season and that would also be fitting to show up in a season finale.
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The spore drive still travels the distance, it's just extremely fast.

Dialogue in Discovery said the spore network is part of subspace, so the omega mines would effect the network as well. Discovery would not be able to jump outside of the bubble.

cooleddie74 said:
Isn't in the opening scene in the hallway at the Academy? The Ferengi Cadet in the background?
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Yeah I found them.
 
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I like how Vance doesn't bother to answer and Ake is like, 'he knows better to give me an order that he knows I'd have to disobey.'

That's been, IMO, a sort of artificial drama for way too many past Trek shows, the leadership telling Kirk or Picard or whomever not to do X, and them doing it anyway. It's nice to see a relationship between a Captain and Admiral where they know each other well enough (and are genre-savvy enough?) to know not to create a court-martial inquest situation, and just accept that what has to be done, will get done.
 
Fateor said:
It's kind of too bad they are hamstrung by Discovery's epilogue, because this could have been a high stakes finale except we already know everything will be fine.
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Yeah it was pretty idiotic of them to jump Burnhams story ahead 30 years in the future and seeing that the Federation is around and thriving. We know everything will just be fine.

tenmei said:
That's like saying ST6 was hamstrung because we already knew everything was going to be fine due to TNG
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ST6 didnt have a galactic destruction looming.

I havent seen the episode but im assuming its another possible galactic destruction threat. Kurtzman cant keep away from those. Yawn. Lol.
 
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This one was Ok. Gave it a 7. It started out looking like it was going to be another snooze fest but then they stole the shuttle! That was actually fun, although perhaps a bit too easy. The reunion with the Mom, with both its highs and lows were well done.

Overall, it was nothing that pushed the envelop so I can't give it more than a 7. But at least it was an enjoyable romp and the emotions during the reunion felt earned.
 
Romulan_spy said:
To be fair, the Athena is a school/training ship. So it would make sense if it was not super strong in combat.
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That's my 'suspension of disbelief' problem, why not give her a ship that can defend itself, or at least send one along.

They knew it was going to be dangerous, letting Nahla use the Athena was ridiculous.
They have other ships available.

The need of the plot here, went way beyond stupid.
It's one of the few times for me that made the story too obviously absurd.
 
FredH said:
A good episode. Though… to surround the entire Federation, would they not have needed an utterly impossible number of mines?
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That was my first thought. That's an insane number of mines that would be needed over a vast area.
 
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