Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x09 – “300th Night”

[Galaxy]

9

I really enjoyed that! Action, an alien planet updates to the Star Trek star charts to ogle over, some nice visuals.

It so often happens in Star Trek that the are not able to detect life signs because tech ede tech does not work, loved Akes line here "Well that's a design flaw!"

 

[NCC-73515]

I wish Paramount+ would join the other streamers and actually announce the time they release new episodes. HBO Max does it (The Pitt comes out Thursdays at 9 eastern), Amazon Does it, and Apple TV is very good at it. I hate seeing the episode released through the Apple TV app, click on it and it's not there. My biggest annoyance with Paramount+ and it has been for years.

They've previously said midnight on the west coast, and then put it up between 11 and 12. Today I actually saw it on the show page, but when I opened it, it said 404 not available, and when I refreshed the show page, it disappeared again

 

[tomalak301]

Well, I would describe that episode as shit hitting the fan. It was actually good, but kind of felt a little slow moving in it's urgency. The end, though, nice set up for the finale next week. I think this episode proved that Sam really has gotten the best arc this season.

I guess I'll be generous and give it an 8, but it was more like a 7.5.

 

[Discovery McDiscoveryFace]

Shiiiiiiit

I can't help wondering if the Omega Particle was in the mix when they were coming up with the idea for The Burrrrrn. Maybe this was an original story concept. With Osyra instead of Braka.

 

[tomalak301]

I can't help wondering if the Omega Particle was in the mix when they were coming up with the idea for The Burrrrrn. Maybe this was an original story concept. With Osyra instead of Braka.

It would have been a much better story. I haven't seen Unification III for a long time, but I always felt that it was a missed opportunity that the Burn should have been caused by a science experiment gone wrong (I think that is the Omega Particle) instead of someone's emotions. It would have at least made sense in the context of the season.

 

[NCC-73515]

Exactly, and that the 10C mining thing is the graviton ellipse

 

[DaveyNY]

It's an interesting episode, but it was pretty obvious to me from the outset when the Omega Particle Mine was disclosed, that Braka was planning on cutting the Federation off from the rest of the galaxy.
Especially with all the talk about subspace being destroyed.
He even mentioned something in his earlier appearance his desire of taking out the Federation to control this part of the galaxy.

And Caleb is a fukin' idiot thinking that he would be able to fool his mom about joining the Academy.

The whole 'non-plan' was just a shitstorm waiting to happen.

With all the 32nd century tech available, why is the USS Athena such a piece of crap whenever it goes up against another starship.
They gutted the one thing about Trek that was reliable, that Star Fleet ships were more than capable of holding their own and at the very least pretty much attempted to put up a fight.

I think I've seen to many years of TV shows for anything to surprise me anymore.
The villain in this series is just way too overpowered and the Hero's are way too ridiculously incompetent to be believable.

It's one thing to be willing to go with the suspension of disbelief, but this is way beyond that for me.
I gave it a 5.

 

[Galaxy]

There is an eternal archive

That was the one from Discovery Season 5 no?

DS9 on the bottom left (also called Terok Nor again?)

It seems DS9 and Bajor are not part of the Federation as per this map


I thought there would be a "Khionian bitch" moment wenn Darem started smiling when he got beaten, as in Khionians turn into Marvel characters above a certain pain threshold.

 

[thribs]

Stealing the story from Star Wars High Republic now?
Can’t they just leave the Galaxy through the barrier and jump to where they go from there? The universe is 3d after all.

 

[Galaxy]

Stealing the story from Star Wars High Republic now?
Can’t they just leave the Galaxy through the barrier and jump to where they go from there? The universe is 3d after all.

When they zoomed out, the mines were all around on 4 axis.

 

[thribs]

When they zoomed out, the mines were all around on 4 axis.

You could bypass around them

 

[FredH]

A good episode. Though… to surround the entire Federation, would they not have needed an utterly impossible number of mines?

 

[Agony_Boothb]

With all the 32nd century tech available, why is the USS Athena such a piece of crap whenever it goes up against another starship.

Because It's a school not a battleship.

 

[Galaxy]

Shiiiiiiit

You could bypass around them

I interpret that as being a complete mine bubble. Reno even said there were no holes.

 

[firehawk12]

It's funny that this is a Kristen Beyer episode because I think the DS9 episode is the most complete episode of the series and I feel the same way about this one, but I think the episodes leading up to it really do let it down. It's like missing so many episodes of development to get the characters where they are, which isn't necessarily any one's fault, but they don't feel like "family" in the way that the episode really needs them to be.

It's like I liked it, but also it feels a bit hollow, especially since we don't get any time with "new" SAM. I also don't get the impression that they're all Fast and Furious Ride or Die family, even after them trying to couch things through the Miyazaki event. But they only had like 3 episodes to try to get there and it is what it is.

It feels like they also wrote off Tarima's brother entirely when it looked like he was part of the in group, especially in the last episode.

I also was hoping against all hope that there wouldn't be a galaxy-ending threat because when that's how every season is structured, the threats just don't mean anything any more but... yeah. I guess that's the only way the writers can structure a season nowadays.

I will say, people speculating Caleb's mother is the true big bad has really fucked with my expectations now. I'm not sure if I want that twist to happen or not.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

A good episode. Though… to surround the entire Federation, would they not have needed an utterly impossible number of mines?

The mines might be self replicating. Which they could do in the 24th century. Now with programmable matter they could have made an endless amount. A single molecule of omega can obilterate subpaces across dozens of lightyears. The mines would not have to be very big to contain a molecule.

 

[firehawk12]

I interpret that as being a complete mine bubble. Reno even said there were no holes.

I know time travel is prohibited or whatever, but Spock would say they're thinking very three dimensional and that it's very easy to bypass the bubble. lol

 

[FredH]

The mines might be self replicating. Which they could do in the 24th century. Now with programmable matter they could have made an endless amount. A single molecule of omega can obilterate subpaces across dozens of lightyears. The mines would not have to be very big to contain a molecule.

Not that endless. If the Federation is something like 8000 light-years across, that’s very different from blockading a wormhole. If we arbitrarily assume it’s a sphere, the surface area needing to be covered is 201 million square light-years. Those mines would have had to be both replicating and somehow traveling at warp speeds to do it for a long, long, ridiculously long time…

 

[Discovery McDiscoveryFace]

It feels like they also wrote off Tarima's brother entirely when it looked like he was part of the in group, especially in the last episode.

I had a quick scoot through the season and it seems that there is a pattern of limiting the number of cast each episode by losing 2 or 3 in rotation. I think that:

- they topped their budget, expected more budget to be forthcoming, and didn't get it or
- they were in budget, but other costs took them over
- they were in budget, but casting Giamatti took that over (Giamatti across 3 episodes is about $2mil and guest cast are $20K per episode, younger main are $30-35k, and Tigs and Odeds are $100k = 70 less guest cast slots)
- they were in budget, but rewrote ad hoc to include a more expensive player such as Oded for one episode more, which knocked 3-4 guest cast out

I know little of these dark arts but I assume each guest or recurring brings knock-on hair, costume, make-up, craft services etc costs.

I know that's not new, but was not as noticeable in pre-Kurtzman Trek. Other than the absence of Leeta and Rom from WYLB.

 

[Fateor]

I had a quick scoot through the season and it seems that there is a pattern of limiting the number of cast each episode by losing 2 or 3 in rotation. I think that:

- they topped their budget, expected more budget to be forthcoming, and didn't get it or
- they were in budget, but other costs took them over
- they were in budget, but casting Giamatti took that over (Giamatti across 3 episodes is about $2mil and guest cast are $20K per episode, younger main are $30-35k, and Tigs and Odeds are $100k = 70 less guest cast slots)
- they were in budget, but rewrote ad hoc to include a more expensive player such as Oded for one episode more, which knocked 3-4 guest cast out

I know little of these dark arts but I assume each guest or recurring brings knock-on hair, costume, make-up, craft services etc costs.

I know that's not new, but was not as noticeable in pre-Kurtzman Trek. Other than the absence of Leeta and Rom from WYLB.

Where are you getting those numbers from?