Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

[Mr Light]

What an amazing episode! When the word HYDRA appeared on the monitor I literally cheered. I didn't think they would do a literal and direct tie-in to the movie like this! And damn, for those of you who didn't see the movie on opening weekend... you got screwed

I was actually surprised that Garrett turned out to be Hydra.... and I was super duper surprised to find that Ward is Hydra too! There's no way he murdered three innocent agents just to go undercover.

We still don't know who the Clairvoyant is. I was hoping it was gonna be Zola. Maybe it still can be. Surely the program made copies of himself...

My only disappointment is that the events of the movie took place over a single episode. I was hoping this entire closing arc of the season would take place across the events of the movie.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Garrett's the Clairvoyant...he certainly wasn't denying it.

And for those of you who've seen TWS, notice how the episode conveniently avoided addressing...

Spoiler: Maybe the one thing from TWS that the episode didn't spoil

...the massive public data dump of SHIELD info...or did I miss that?

 

[DEWLine]

Wondering how long before the treasure-hunters and history tourists come knocking at the various installations?

 

[Enterprise1701]

After watching this episode, just wow.

Where has Agents of S.H..I.E.L.D. been all season with episodes like these?

And now how are we supposed to have Fury explain the GH-325 alien?

 

[sojourner]

Ok, you guys are missing the obvious. Knowing glance from Ward to Coulson, Ward staring at Hand's "dead" hand at the end. He used an Icer. Garrett doesn't know about icers. Ward was watching to see if Hand started to wake up. (hoping she doesn't)

 

[Alidar Jarok]

^ I'm pretty sure Garrett does know about Icers because they were talking about using one on Hand earlier (he said she didn't deserve one). Plus, we saw the other agents get shot in the head.

Garrett's the Clairvoyant...he certainly wasn't denying it.

And for those of you who've seen TWS, notice how the episode conveniently avoided addressing...

Spoiler: Maybe the one thing from TWS that the episode didn't spoil

...the massive public data dump of SHIELD info...or did I miss that?

They didn't mention it, but they did mention SHIELD basically being destroyed. Given that, it's kind of low on their priorities. I would imagine not dying would be higher.

 

[The Old Mixer]

^I'm saying that for this show to continue, they're probably going to proceed on the premise that...

Spoiler: Yes, Virginia, there are still TWS spoilers

...SHIELD still has secrets to protect/fight over.

Didn't look like an icer.

 

[DEWLine]

Didn't look like it to me either.

 

[Eduardo]

Ok, you guys are missing the obvious. Knowing glance from Ward to Coulson, Ward staring at Hand's "dead" hand at the end. He used an Icer. Garrett doesn't know about icers. Ward was watching to see if Hand started to wake up. (hoping she doesn't)

- The hand was bloody
- Garrett knows about Icers, remember the train episode? The bad guys created, based on the night night gun, a Dendrotoxin grenade.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

That probably should have been a bit of a tip off of the SHIELD connection.

 

[sojourner]

The bad guys created, based on the night night gun, a Dendrotoxin grenade.

Fitz created the icers, an upgrade of the night night guns. Not exactly the same thing.

But yeah, my theory may not work on second viewing. The look between Coulson and Ward plus Ward staring at Hand's hand still look like classic television foreshadowing.

 

[The Old Mixer]

In this episode, they used icers only during their infiltration of the Hub. Garrett was with them.

 

[Mister Fandango]

And some of you insisted Hand wasn't bad despite everything being set up to make her look that way.

Or they were just paying attention to what was actually happening, as they mentioned, as opposed to falling for the obvious red herring the writers were throwing over and over and over.

It feels good to be proven right.

 

[Guy Gardener]

When you dig into that man's personality, no matter how well he acts, 2 layers of skin down and you've hit Chet from Weird Science.

 

[Eduardo]

The bad guys created, based on the night night gun, a Dendrotoxin grenade.

Fitz created the icers, an upgrade of the night night guns. Not exactly the same thing.

Yep, to clarify, Garrett at least knows about dendrotoxin guns.

The Cybertek security team escorting the Deathlok component were armed with the grenades, which paralyzed Coulson, Ward and Simmons. Fitz mentions that someone must have upgraded it and made it airborn.

 

[TheSeeker]

Everybody else has already covered most of my thoughts, but another nice touch was the fact that

Spoiler: Fitz

the tool Fury and Black Widow use in TWS was invented by Fitz.

 

[Technobuilder]

Everybody else has already covered most of my thoughts, but another nice touch was the fact that

Spoiler: Fitz

the tool Fury and Black Widow use in TWS was invented by Fitz.

AKA "Mousehole"

 

[The Old Mixer]

And some of you insisted Hand wasn't bad despite everything being set up to make her look that way.

Or they were just paying attention to what was actually happening, as they mentioned, as opposed to falling for the obvious red herring the writers were throwing over and over and over.

It feels good to be proven right.

Quoting me out of context, you miss the point I was making...I was acknowledging that you guys were right and pointing out that they may be doing the same thing with Ward.

But you'd rather not pay attention to what was actually happening in my post, just to score points, when I was the first one to point out that I was wrong when the moment came.

 

[Mister Fandango]

But you'd rather not pay attention to what was actually happening in my post, just to score points

Pretty much. If for no other reason than the abhorrent smugness of everyone who said otherwise previous to tonight. I feel justified.

 

[bbjeg]

Great episode. I had a feeling Ward was a traitor (and Triplet) but I thought there would be a logical reason why. I guess in a HYDRA world, bullies like his big brother wouldn't exist? I didn't see Garrett's betrayal coming (at least I didn't want to, I liked him) and I totally thought Hand was behind everything. I was misdirected.

Ok, you guys are missing the obvious. Knowing glance from Ward to Coulson, Ward staring at Hand's "dead" hand at the end. He used an Icer. Garrett doesn't know about icers. Ward was watching to see if Hand started to wake up. (hoping she doesn't)

Garrett knows about icers, he ordered Triplett to use one on Deathlok at the beginning of the last episode.