Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

I thought it was that she missed a button, as in her shirt was obviously misaligned because some or all of the buttoned buttons were mated with the wrong holes. But it blew by so fast for me (and it's deleted now), that I could easily be wrong.

 

She told her she missed a button, slyly telling her she got busted getting dressed after hooking up with that guy.

 

^I didn't think she was being "sly," I thought she was trying to be helpful and kind.

 

And then realizing that she was inadvertantly adding to Skye's humiliation by pointing out that detail, if memory serves.

 

Yes, Nerdette is supposed to be a fool. The real purpose of the scene of course is to emphasize that Skye was cheating on her SO, Squarejaw. (Yes, I know it's supposed to be Supervising Officer, but that's actually Coulson, so skip the pretend, pleace.) Since the SO relationship hasn't been consummated yet, Skye can be forgiven, after requisite humiliation and begging on her part. I've only seen some Firefly, Dollhouse and Dr. Horrible, so I've never seen the slightest reason to think Whedon is a feminist.

 

Up thread there was a discussion about the effect AoS's cancellation would have. I really think if it has any effect, it would be a halt on Agent Carter, and whatever other MCU shows they are considering.

 

Well, helpful and kind in the sense of, "This is how I know you two hooked up. Busted!"

 

Exactly. It was a misfired attempt at kindness.

I think you have profoundly misread Jemma's character. There was nothing spiteful or catty about her remark, no sense of triumph or schadenfreude. She was just reflexively trying to alert Skye that her clothes weren't straight, the same way she would with a friend. It showed that she was starting to think of Skye as a friend and thus didn't know how to deal with her evident betrayal -- the same emotion that Fitz expressed more overtly.

 

Well, since I never thought Jemma was being spiteful or catty, or trying to rub Skye's nose in anything, I don't think so. Letting Skye know that "We all know what you did" and why does not imply saying something in order to hurt Skye. I read it as more along the lines of telling Skye to get real. You could say that that's helpful, but it also has about the level of "kindness" as an emotional slap in the face, which could be exactly what Skye needed at that point, in order to grow into "a better good guy".

But that use of the word "profoundly" really makes me . ETA: That is to say, I mean, profoundly? Seriously?

P.P.S.: I certainly agree that Simmons winced when she realized that it embarrassed Skye. I think she said it because she thought it had to be said, not because she wanted to or took any pleasure from it.

P.P.P.S.: Or, maybe Simmons was just being compulsive, and not trying to help Skye or clue her in on anything. What do I know?

 

That's the advanced class.

They're still Thing 1 and Thing 2 to me.

 

No, you're not the only one. I also don't think that was the first innuendo.

 

Currently, I feel the show has gotten a bit better. It started out horribly and I really dug into it but because I like Marvel and because the show is entertaining nonetheless, I decided to stick with it. It's a nitpick (yeah, I guess I nitpick a bunch) but I would really like to see more "ugly" people. Everyone is so pretty. Doctor Debbie, the villain, was not only very pretty but could pass for being Simmon's twin sister. Nothing about her felt threatening unless I would count any anxiety of me going up to her asking her for a date.

 

I dunno, that seems more like Xander/Buffy to me. With Ward as Angel.

But wasn't that the point? In the pilot, we were supposed to think she was an innocent victim whom Mike had rescued, until the surprise revelation that she was the one behind the Extremis experiment.

 

Yeah, I see your point. One of my problems initially seeing the show was that everyone is so pretty, even moreso than your usual prime time television series. I wasn't sure if I was alone on that reaction but it seems that a lot of people noticed it as well. Show could use for some more "ugly" or average looking folks.

 

TV shows have been casting good-looking people for as long as there's been TV. I don't see how this one's any different.

 

That's why I had mentioned moreso than usual. Pretty much all TV shows have an abundance of attractive people but I felt that AoS is a bit too much to be believable. Off the top of my head, I can think of something like Fringe. Initially, there was only two good looking characters: Peter and Olivia and Olivia, it can be argued, is quite attractive but in a "plain" kind of way which fit her character. Skye is living out of a van and she looks close to being a supermodel which is a bit of a stretch even for a television show. It's a minor gripe, yes, but I can think of so many other shows where practically not every character looks like they walked out of a fashion magazine. It was just something that struck me about the show and later found out I wasn't alone on this criticism.

 

So compare to Warehouse 13, with characters like Artie and Mrs. Frederick. It's not like it's never been done.

The SHIELD cast has cookie-cutter good looks, straight out of a modeling agency. If the show had broken the mold and given us some diversity, I'm sure everyone would be complimenting it for pushing the bouandaries.

They aren't pushing those boundaries, so we aren't complimenting it.