Fan reactions to Starfleet Academy's female Jem'Hadar/Klingon hybrid character

[TRON JA307020]

When you got replicators it's probably a little bit easier.

Still. Door tech hasnt advanced in 800 years?

 

[fireproof78]

Still. Door tech hasnt advanced in 800 years?

Can I ask how door tech can advance? And how you can tell just by looking at them?

 

[The Gatekeeper]

I would think there comes a point where you just can't improve on a door anymore. I mean, by the 24th century it's at a point where they open automatically when one approaches it. What further advancement is there beyond that? Making it sentient and capable of having conversations? Giving birth to a baby door?

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Dematerializing and re-materializing rather than opening and closing.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Dematerializing and re-materializing rather than opening and closing.

Exactly Laura. To have orange doors just like pikes Enterprise 800 years earlier seems pretty silly. The doors were always considered advanced tech. 800 years later they haven't advanced it further seems pretty unrealistic.

I would think there comes a point where you just can't improve on a door anymore. I mean, by the 24th century it's at a point where they open automatically when one approaches it. What further advancement is there beyond that? Making it sentient and capable of having conversations? Giving birth to a baby door?

Laura came up with a way better advancement theory than you did.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Essentially, force fields replacing a door - combined with scanning, disinfecting, etc. It'd ruin a lot of stories, though. And I'm sure there are plenty of good reasons why the old/simple ways are best - when the new tech malfunctions, the old tech might hold up.

 

[fireproof78]

Essentially, force fields replacing a door - combined with scanning, disinfecting, etc. It'd ruin a lot of stories, though. And I'm sure there are plenty of good reasons why the old/simple ways are best - when the new tech malfunctions, the old tech might hold up.

Materializing and dematerializing seems like a waste of energy.

 

[Zombie Cheerleader]

Materializing and dematerializing seems like a waste of energy.

I doubt the SFX budget would allow for it.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Essentially, force fields replacing a door - combined with scanning, disinfecting, etc. It'd ruin a lot of stories, though. And I'm sure there are plenty of good reasons why the old/simple ways are best - when the new tech malfunctions, the old tech might hold up.

I figure they would use their programmable matter.

Materializing and dematerializing seems like a waste of energy.

800 years in the future. Doubtful energy would be an issue any longer .

I doubt the SFX budget would allow for it.

But as so many here point out. The tos enterprise just had to be changed because it didnt look advanced enough for today's audiences. The doors look so primitive for the 32nd century. They could spend a little to make them look more advanced as need than pike rather than recycle them between sets .

 

[Boo-khat!]

I would think there comes a point where you just can't improve on a door anymore. I mean, by the 24th century it's at a point where they open automatically when one approaches it. What further advancement is there beyond that? Making it sentient and capable of having conversations? Giving birth to a baby door?

A door that knows that even though you're right up near it and it technically should open, it realizes that you are still having a conversation with someone else in the room and won't open until that conversation is over

 

[fireproof78]

A door that knows that even though you're right up near it and it technically should open, it realizes that you are still having a conversation with someone else in the room and won't open until that conversation is over

Ah, the drama integrity circuit. An excellent invention.

 

[fireproof78]

800 years in the future. Doubtful energy would be an issue any longer .

Maybe? Still seems stupidly impractical.

 

[Steve Roby]

Some places will continue using older forms of doors for a variety of reasons. Aesthetic choice. Practical considerations. Sense of tradition.

I wonder how long we can keep discussing doors.

 

[Boo-khat!]

I wonder how long we can keep discussing doors.

I guess it's better than discussing clothing styles in the 25th century.

Sorry; you had to be there.

 

[PumpkinSpiceFoodCube]

The doors to the Pantheon are still working 2000 years later. Remarkably door technology hasn't had to change much before or since then. I think the universe has the door thing figured out.

 

[fireproof78]

The doors to the Pantheon are still working 2000 years later. Remarkably door technology hasn't had to change much before or since then. I think the universe has the door thing figured out.

I feel like being told that doors need to look more advanced is like someone trying to sell me the latest iPhone that offers nothing new but looks cool.

 

[TRON JA307020]

The doors to the Pantheon are still working 2000 years later. Remarkably door technology hasn't had to change much before or since then. I think the universe has the door thing figured out.

Door tech was a huge advancement in TOS. I would expect they would continue to advance it especially in 800 years.

 

[1001001]

I wonder how long we can keep discussing doors.

 

[PumpkinSpiceFoodCube]

 

[Quantum21]

I don't understand all this hate/vitriol online suddenly about the female Jem'Hadar/Klingon hybrid character from Starfleet Academy. People saying: "oh there can't be a female Jem'Hadar because the Jem'Hadar were all males". In the 24th century. There were no female Jem'Hadar in the 24th century because they were all genetically engineered (essentially clones "bred" not born) to be male. The Dominion genetically engineered the Jem'Hadar to be super soldiers and engineered/cloned them all to be male (being clones there was no need for women, also the Dominion mindset at the time being that having women would have made them weak). Things change over 800+ years. After returning to the Great Link Odo could have changed the Dominion and ultimately caused them to decide to clone female Jem'Hadar. For all we know the Dominion as it was in the 24th century may not even exist in the 32nd century. A female Jem'Hadar/Klingon hybrid character is an interesting idea for a character actually, seeing that both species are warrior, just warriors with slightly different ethos. Saying that because the Jem'Hadar were the way they were in DS9 means they can't be any different in Starfleet Academy makes absolutely no sense. By that logic a group of people who were a certain way in the 1200's at the time of the high middle ages and the crusades HAVE to be exactly that same way today in the 2000's.

Some pedants also point out that the actress has a "large body size" and say "Klingons and Jem'Hadar are warriors! They're all fit and have great physiques!" There have been plenty of heavy-set Klingons in Star Trek (General Koord in ST: V, Chancellor K'mpek from TNG, the chef at the Klingon restaurant in DS9 season 2 to name but a few). The character being heavyset is such a non-issue, and if she is the product of a union between an Jem'Hadar and a Klingon, there is no reason she couldn't have inherited the genes for larger body size.

People complain because of something that is new and different being done in a new Star trek series that is set in a timeframe beyond anything that's been seen so far. And they complain because this character is part Jem'Hadar and yet not like the Jem'Hadar in DS9 800 years past. A LOT can change in 800 years. I think Star Trek would be a lot less believable if nothing had changed after 800 years. These same people say this is an example of Star Trek's creative powers ignoring canon. It's not. It's building canon. Nothing about this character contradicts, retcons, or otherwise disrespects canon.

And then there's all the people saying that it's part of "the woke agenda". No it's not. It's just a character. Yet it's obviously played by a black woman and a person with some body size. So what? Why does/should that matter? Honestly all the hate/outrage over the character BEFORE the show has even premiered: much ado about nothing. I have a better idea: how about let's not go Green Eggs and Ham and actually wait until the series premieres and we actually see the character before passing judgement.

People are really ugly right now. The world is dark. Sadly