@Admiral Buzzkill, I understand what misogyny means. You have your opinions, and I have mine.
It's right there in the title of the thread you started. You are interpreting this bit of the movie in a way no one else is, and yet you seem to believe that it's an objective fact. I'm more of the mind that it's simply your interpretation, and that you are entirely wrong.
And the title of the thread is a question, not a statement. So, I'm not sure that a question can be classified as an interpretation.
Of course it can. In journalism, for example, that very thing has happened with sufficient frequency that
an adage was coined to address it:
Betteridge's law of headlines said:
"Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."
But this isn't journalism; it's a forum. People start threads asking questions all of the time, not interpreting anything at all.
The title-in-question-form has the (often intended) effect of prompting the reader in advance to suppose an affirmative answer when, in fact, the article may not (and often does not) provide adequate reasoning in support of such an assumption.
Does your subject line qualify as an interpretation? Perhaps not, but all it takes is a read of this thread to see that the scene in question has more interpretations than the one which is suggested by the title.
Exactly, which is why the question was asked, to spark discussion and see what other people here may think. That's what starting threads in a forum is usually about: Discussion. Journalism is about reporting, which does deal more in providing statements (even through headlines).
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Anyway, I came across this video that kind of helps to answer my question:
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-_VTnGBXd0[/yt]
At about the 5:30 mark, Zachary answers the question of "What was the most interesting disagreement you had with JJ on the set." He mentions that scene specifically. He said that in the original script, Uhura doesn't beam down to help him, and I guess they added that bit in somewhere along the way. He took issue with it because he wasn't sure if that's how the scene should really play out.
Now, Zachary's objections aside, I think I understand why this scene doesn't work for me. I'm guessing that it was an attempt to give Zoe more to do (after tptb perhaps realized that they hadn't given Uhura much to do so far), so they kind of stuck her in there and had her fire some shots that didn't really do anything so her boyfriend could take the bad guy out afterward and save the day, but now you can say Uhura helped in some capacity.
The problem with this, for me at least, is how it played out. She was kind of shoehorned in there and not really used well to me. Yes, she got to do something, but it kind of fell flat. Like I mentioned before, I don't think it was tptb's intent for the scene to play out the way it did, but for me it did play out that way (meaning that even though they gave her something to do, the way it played out made it seem like she didn't really do anything).
I think it would have been better if they had the 2 of them working together to take him out in the way of tag-teaming him. back and forth. That way it would have seemed like more of a joint effort, or Khan could have at least looked like the stunning was taking a toll (which he didn't really look that way from my memory). Either that, or let Spock have his moment alone and then write something for Uhura where she gets to really shine and show off her skills.
I also think it's interesting that Zoe had to kind of ask (at approx 7:15) that S/U be dealt with in the film. I kind of get the impression that the original script hardly had her doing anything at all, so then they added in the S/U stuff and put her in the Spock vs. Khan scene at the end. That's too bad, and it takes my initial question starting this thread in a whole different direction.
