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Anyone ever wonder if the leaking of the the X-Man film was trek motivated...

A trek fan involved with the production of that film worrying that it would damage trek leaks it to deflate some of the WOM...
 
I'm glad that the initial reviews have been all positive. I hope the RT rating stays high until the release. Then it'll probably drop to ~80% after the release.
 
Anyone ever wonder if the leaking of the the X-Man film was trek motivated...

A trek fan involved with the production of that film worrying that it would damage trek leaks it to deflate some of the WOM...

It's a conspiracy.

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Anyone ever wonder if the leaking of the the X-Man film was trek motivated...

A trek fan involved with the production of that film worrying that it would damage trek leaks it to deflate some of the WOM...

Let's just hope that no Marvel fan was involved with the production of Star Trek!!!!!! :D
 
Anyone ever wonder if the leaking of the the X-Man film was trek motivated...

A trek fan involved with the production of that film worrying that it would damage trek leaks it to deflate some of the WOM...

The thought has crossed ny mind...
Now we need some devoted trekkies in T4's post production.
 
Don't count on the Enterprise until it launches. This reminds me of all the hype surrounding Watchmen. All the early reviews were positive but eventually most of the mainstream critics gave it average reviews and most audience found the movie confusing. I predict the same will happen to Star Trek. Most reviewers will give it average reviews (RT score of 50%) with the dreaded "Star Trek fans will be pleased" nonsense and mainstream viewers will go meh. ST will open big but fall away quickly. Paramount will make back it's money because of DVD and foreign markets but will shelve ST because the franchise has no staying power.
 
^^ Much as I hate to say it, but that's kind of what I fear will happen. Will the majority
of moviegoers to who the film is marketed actuallly be able to look past their preconceptions regarding Trek? Will reviewers? I'm not sure.

Then again, the situation this time is much different from the last few films. There is no series on the air right now. We're back with the original characters who are still the core of the franchise, especially for the uninitiated, so that might hold some mainstream appeal. And also, the film is heavily advertised compared to previous films (or Watchmen, for that matter.)... So who knows?
 
Don't count on the Enterprise until it launches. This reminds me of all the hype surrounding Watchmen. All the early reviews were positive but eventually most of the mainstream critics gave it average reviews and most audience found the movie confusing. I predict the same will happen to Star Trek. Most reviewers will give it average reviews (RT score of 50%) with the dreaded "Star Trek fans will be pleased" nonsense and mainstream viewers will go meh. ST will open big but fall away quickly. Paramount will make back it's money because of DVD and foreign markets but will shelve ST because the franchise has no staying power.

I can't agree despite having doubts about the end total (some people are going o OTT with 350-500 million estimates) I do feel that STAR TREK will get much better reviews than Watchmen and has other things going for it. No disrespect for Watchmen intended buts it has a lack of mainstream appeal, hell I never heard of the comic before the movie its a cult but obscured comic...

The trailers for Watchmen while looking pretty looked confusing and not appealing to the mainstream public, however TREK has had a much bigger and better ad campaigin because Paramount has done a stellar job (does anyone know the ad budget I've heard $70 million ?) STAR TREK does have the buzz from trek fans and non trek fans to a degree Watchmen never had...

More important the TREK fanbase both hardcore and causal dwarfs the Watchmen fanbase. I do think what ever the opening weekend is, that wost case possible double it or at least close to double to get your final domestic total. Worldwide will break $100 million worst case IMO and paramount will consider a full success at $300 million IMO but will still move on with a sequel with no doubts at $270 full total IMO.

anyone got recent tracking numbers ? early ones after each trailer were good but they can't be trusted
 
^^ Much as I hate to say it, but that's kind of what I fear will happen. Will the majority
of moviegoers to who the film is marketed actuallly be able to look past their preconceptions regarding Trek? Will reviewers? I'm not sure.

Then again, the situation this time is much different from the last few films. There is no series on the air right now. We're back with the original characters who are still the core of the franchise, especially for the uninitiated, so that might hold some mainstream appeal. And also, the film is heavily advertised compared to previous films (or Watchmen, for that matter.)... So who knows?

Well, nice knowing there's still all this goodwill toward the Original Characters. Because, boy, there sure wasn't much during the late 80s and 90s. This Site was built on it.

Now, full circle. Don't count on it. What you fail to realize, nostalgia aside--no matter how deeply ingrained Trek's become in the annals of pop culture--it's a rare entity in that you either get it--or you don't. Most folks don't--that's why it's never reached the level of mainstream appeal the way a Star Wars or Indiana Jones has. It never will.

JJ's bells, whistles, Mon Calmari-style ship designs/interiors, Speed Racer type action will only improve the numbers nominally. Star Trek's appeal is that--it is, was, and will always be--camp. Intellectual sf camp. That's what makes it so fun, and basically a niche phenomenon. Always has. Nothing's changed in the 40+ years its been around. It succeeds the best when it tries the least to be something it's not.

Turning it into into Star Wars won't change anything. If folks want that, well, it ain't what JJ's offering. They won't buy it.
 
I have a feeling even if it is a resounding box office success, you will poo-poo that because it only succeed for having been dumbed down.

Talk about a no-win situation...
 
Don't count on the Enterprise until it launches. This reminds me of all the hype surrounding Watchmen. All the early reviews were positive but eventually most of the mainstream critics gave it average reviews and most audience found the movie confusing. I predict the same will happen to Star Trek. Most reviewers will give it average reviews (RT score of 50%) with the dreaded "Star Trek fans will be pleased" nonsense and mainstream viewers will go meh. ST will open big but fall away quickly. Paramount will make back it's money because of DVD and foreign markets but will shelve ST because the franchise has no staying power.

I can't agree despite having doubts about the end total (some people are going o OTT with 350-500 million estimates) I do feel that STAR TREK will get much better reviews than Watchmen and has other things going for it. No disrespect for Watchmen intended buts it has a lack of mainstream appeal, hell I never heard of the comic before the movie its a cult but obscured comic...

The trailers for Watchmen while looking pretty looked confusing and not appealing to the mainstream public, however TREK has had a much bigger and better ad campaigin because Paramount has done a stellar job (does anyone know the ad budget I've heard $70 million ?) STAR TREK does have the buzz from trek fans and non trek fans to a degree Watchmen never had...

More important the TREK fanbase both hardcore and causal dwarfs the Watchmen fanbase. I do think what ever the opening weekend is, that wost case possible double it or at least close to double to get your final domestic total. Worldwide will break $100 million worst case IMO and paramount will consider a full success at $300 million IMO but will still move on with a sequel with no doubts at $270 full total IMO.

anyone got recent tracking numbers ? early ones after each trailer were good but they can't be trusted

This hardcore and casual Trek fanbase you speak of--if it's the same one that tuned into ENT and couldn't even keep it on air--you'd better be worried. By the time they yanked ENT off the air, there were barely 2 million people a week tuning in, and even they were dwindling rapidly.

I don't think their ranks have swelled in the aftermath, despite JJ's mad scramble to hustle his way through. Trek ended in 1991. What came after, well, that's debatable. This won't help revive it either. I've been Trekking 40 years, and I've no plans to see it. Why would I? I've moved on. And if I, a veteran Trekker is disinterested--what makes you think the average moviegoer's all that enthusiastic about it when it'll be facing films like Wolverine, Terminator and Angels & Demons at the box office?

Exactly.
 
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And if I, a veteran Trekker is disinterested--what makes you think the average moviegoer's all that enthusiastic about it


You are just part of a sad minority of Trek fans.
Even in this very forum various polls have shown that about 95 % of people intend to see the movie. And most of them have no concerns about its direction.

And allow me to doubt how many of you who claim that you will not see it, will actually do it.
If for nothing else, so that you will be able to come here and whine about every little detail that contradicts whatever fan fiction you've been building in your heads for decades.
 
And if I, a veteran Trekker is disinterested--what makes you think the average moviegoer's all that enthusiastic about it


You are just part of a sad minority of Trek fans.
Even in this very forum various polls have shown that about 95 % of people intend to see the movie. And most of them have no concerns about its direction.

And allow me to doubt how many of you who claim that you will not see it, will actually do it.
If for nothing else, so that you will be able to come here and whine about every little detail that contradicts whatever fan fiction you've been building in your heads for decades.

Exactly so. ;)
 
You are just part of a sad minority of Trek fans.
Even in this very forum various polls have shown that about 95 % of people intend to see the movie. And most of them have no concerns about its direction.

You're ignoring the fact that many peple who participate in such polls happen to be studio plants. j/k ;)
 
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