RT ratings on movies from earlier than the late 90s are not really comparable to those of today, as the list of critics that are included by RT on the older movies are rather scattershot.
Star Trek Rotten Tomatoes Rating
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RT ratings on movies from earlier than the late 90s are not really comparable to those of today, as the list of critics that are included by RT on the older movies are rather scattershot.
J.J.'s last directorial effort -- Mission: Impossible III -- had a so-called "review" linked to by Rotten Tomatoes MONTHS before the movie came out or anyone saw it. It was basically a Tom Cruise hater who clearly hadn't seen the movie and was attacking it with extreme generalizations.
I don't understand what RT would even link to that and say it's a legit review.
I don't understand what RT would even link to that and say it's a legit review.
I'm not so sure about that, Anthony. There's already lots of hand-wringing over the Wolverine leak, and seeing as that it has been downloaded a million times, I'd say that means a lot of people won't bother to see that film again in theaters. Piracy has killed many a film at the box office.
And good reviews are never a bad thing. For those people who are on the fence about seeing a film, they might just convince them. I imagine the success of The Dark Knight was in part due to the extremely good reviews it got. For me, that flick was "another Batman" that I did indeed have on my list of films I wanted to see, but I wasn't hotly anticipating it. However, when all kinds of glowing reviews came in, way better than what could be expected from a Batman film, TDK suddenly became a must-see for me. Quality does still count for something. And reviews are simply the written form of the fabled good word-of-mouth.
Back on topic, it's a safe bet that negative reviews will come in. Frankly, I was surprised that everybody so far has been that positive about it. Cause I was thinking (and still do a little) that overcoming that old stigma "Oh look, they're doing another one..." is difficult, new and fresh approach or not.
And good reviews are never a bad thing. For those people who are on the fence about seeing a film, they might just convince them. I imagine the success of The Dark Knight was in part due to the extremely good reviews it got. For me, that flick was "another Batman" that I did indeed have on my list of films I wanted to see, but I wasn't hotly anticipating it. However, when all kinds of glowing reviews came in, way better than what could be expected from a Batman film, TDK suddenly became a must-see for me. Quality does still count for something. And reviews are simply the written form of the fabled good word-of-mouth.
Back on topic, it's a safe bet that negative reviews will come in. Frankly, I was surprised that everybody so far has been that positive about it. Cause I was thinking (and still do a little) that overcoming that old stigma "Oh look, they're doing another one..." is difficult, new and fresh approach or not.
Well, I was sad to see it cancelled because Season 3 was aiight and by the fourth and final season it had gotten fairly descent, but with all do respect---seasons 1 & 2 were the missing seasons of ENT.
You really think it won't knock Wolverine out of #1 spot on May 8th? (if so...yeah, right
) Or you just mean it won't totally overshadow it/gross more than it will ultimately?
You really think it won't knock Wolverine out of #1 spot on May 8th? (if so...yeah, right
To be honest, I think Wolverine will fail financially and will kill the whole X-Men movie franchise as we know it.
After seeing the last couple of trailers and adds I've lost all will to go pay and see it. That leaked copy will not help it either.
I could be wrong of course but this is how I see it right now.
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I bet it will get about a 70%-78% which would be good.
You really think it won't knock Wolverine out of #1 spot on May 8th? (if so...yeah, right
To be honest, I think Wolverine will fail and will kill the whole X-Men movie franchise as we know it.
After seeing the last couple of trailers and adds I've lost all will to go pay and see it. That leaked copy will not help it either.
I could be wrong of course but this is how I see it right now.
I've never been an X-Men enthusiast myself so I haven't paid too much attention to the promotion. I like Hugh Jackman, but more for The Fountain. I've started to get the same feeling about Terminator Salvation that you have with X-Men. I'm hoping the trailers for it are being intentionally conservative so as not to spoil the movie (also hope we aren't already seeing ALL the best parts of Star Trek in the trailers).
The Nadir of Trek movie history was when Maid in Manhattan opened stronger than Nemesis head-to-head. How pathetically embarrassing is that? It's deservedly mixed critical response, coupled with over-saturation of Trek on T.V., killed it. Some genre movies, on the other hand, don't seem to depend too much on critical response for success, like Fast and Furious. It's just sad that people would flock to see something so mindless.
You really think it won't knock Wolverine out of #1 spot on May 8th? (if so...yeah, right
To be honest, I think Wolverine will fail financially and will kill the whole X-Men movie franchise as we know it.
After seeing the last couple of trailers and adds I've lost all will to go pay and see it. That leaked copy will not help it either.
I could be wrong of course but this is how I see it right now.
I agree. I honestly don't know anyone who is hyped for Wolverine, all the buzz seems rather negative.
Trek will outgross Wolverine (and Angels & Demons). Terminator, Night at the Museum, and Up are tougher competition.
You really think it won't knock Wolverine out of #1 spot on May 8th? (if so...yeah, right
To be honest, I think Wolverine will fail financially and will kill the whole X-Men movie franchise as we know it.
After seeing the last couple of trailers and adds I've lost all will to go pay and see it. That leaked copy will not help it either.
I could be wrong of course but this is how I see it right now.
I agree. The only two people I know that were excited about this movie have already seen the leaked version. I really enjoyed the first 2 X-Men movies but the 3rd killed the franchise for me.
I would actually say it's going to be very successful. JJ Abrams has a track record of making films that perform well at the box office, and this new film should be no exception. The fact that most of the trailers flash up "From Director JJ Abrams" at the beginning will attract a lot of people that might not have gone to see it otherwise. The hype and wide scale promotion and the fact that it's Kirk and Spock will probably help as well, as even a person who doesn't know anything about the wider franchise will know who these characters are.
If, for example, they'd chosen to make a Voyager film my "bomb alert" signals would have been going off, but I think this will do very good business.
Trek's Competition
Wolverine May 1: Comes out the week before Trek. Has had a lot of bad buzz, and it leaked which has already been downloaded over a million times. WOM is mixed at best. Anyway should Open from $60-$90. Trek is going to crush this film.
Angels & Demons May 15- Comes out in Trek's second weekend. The sequel to the hated DVC, i don't see this hurting Trek, it is for a older audience. Trek Should hold very good against this film.
Terminator Salvation May 21-This will be the first film to compete with Trek directly as they will be competing for the same audience. I see this as the film that will hurt Trek the most, however Memorial Day weekend should cushion the blow.
NATM 2 May 21- This film looks like crap and will flop. However the little kid factor should help it
Up May 29-Its Pixar even though it think this looks like crap. it will fly past $200 million
Wolverine May 1: Comes out the week before Trek. Has had a lot of bad buzz, and it leaked which has already been downloaded over a million times. WOM is mixed at best. Anyway should Open from $60-$90. Trek is going to crush this film.
Angels & Demons May 15- Comes out in Trek's second weekend. The sequel to the hated DVC, i don't see this hurting Trek, it is for a older audience. Trek Should hold very good against this film.
Terminator Salvation May 21-This will be the first film to compete with Trek directly as they will be competing for the same audience. I see this as the film that will hurt Trek the most, however Memorial Day weekend should cushion the blow.
NATM 2 May 21- This film looks like crap and will flop. However the little kid factor should help it
Up May 29-Its Pixar even though it think this looks like crap. it will fly past $200 million
You really think it won't knock Wolverine out of #1 spot on May 8th? (if so...yeah, right
To be honest, I think Wolverine will fail financially and will kill the whole X-Men movie franchise as we know it.
After seeing the last couple of trailers and adds I've lost all will to go pay and see it. That leaked copy will not help it either.
I could be wrong of course but this is how I see it right now.
I agree. The only two people I know that were excited about this movie have already seen the leaked version. I really enjoyed the first 2 X-Men movies but the 3rd killed the franchise for me.
X3 was the X-Men's Nemesis.
The official version of Wolverine really needs to be a huge improvement from the work print if it's going to have any legs at all. The leaked copy is incredibly mediocre, which obviously won't cut it. Maybe one day Fox will get their shit together. This is already a pretty bad year so far with Street Fighter and Dragon Ball.
This site is also good for rating movies too
http://www.metacritic.com/
Generally to be a success you need about 75% from critics
And about 8/10 from readers.
Other than personal taste or the mood a person might be in when they see any given movie.
I find this to be fairly accurate.
For example The Dark Knight had a score of 82 and 8.9/10 at Metacritic.
At Rotten Tomatoes Top Critics gave it a 90%, Reader gave it a 93%.
If Star Trek can score high on both those sites, then it WILL be a success.
Make sure to send in your reviews when the time comes
http://www.metacritic.com/
Generally to be a success you need about 75% from critics
And about 8/10 from readers.
Other than personal taste or the mood a person might be in when they see any given movie.
I find this to be fairly accurate.
For example The Dark Knight had a score of 82 and 8.9/10 at Metacritic.
At Rotten Tomatoes Top Critics gave it a 90%, Reader gave it a 93%.
If Star Trek can score high on both those sites, then it WILL be a success.
Make sure to send in your reviews when the time comes
Wolverine will knock off Wolverine.
Final score? 75-85% positive.
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