Spoilers Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[Guy Gardener]

No...the tedious Prison stuff.

And sorry nothing has topped the original 1977 version of STAR WARS either.

Finding out the Empire was ruled by the Wicked Witch of the West's brother was a letdown - and as we saw in RotJ, Boba Fett was overrated.

Maul was a genuine surprise after the string of failures Disney has served up since they paid off Lucas.

 

[Tuskin38]

since they paid off Lucas.

Paid off? He's the one who sold it.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

False equivalency.

High ratings dont cause awards, it just makes the show more likely to last long enough to be nominated foran award.

i guess thats why tons of tv shows actors actress dictectors producers etc etc over the many years since the 50s gets snubbed at award shows

 

[Nerys Myk]

i guess because then we would know what life at starfleet academy would be like

and also see what kinds of shenanigans and antics that the gang would do while being at starfleet academy

That's what season one was and probably what season two will be.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Paid off? He's the one who sold it.

It's like Sophie's Choice.

George had to pick who to keep.

Either his baby, or a literal mountain of cash.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That's what season one was and probably what season two will be.

Season One beat for beat was Police Academy, when it could have been Porkys.

 

[Firebird]

Season One beat for beat was Police Academy

Please do write the beat-for-beat comparison of the two.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Please do write the beat-for-beat comparison of the two.

Authority figure takes a troubled quasi criminal kid under their wing, sends them to a para military school where they thrive, eventually saving the day with the help of their odd assortment of friends.

 

[Jayson1]

Maul was a genuine surprise after the string of failures Disney has served up since they paid off Lucas.

I actually wasn't surprised by Maul. Dave Filoni for sure knows how to do good Star Wars cartoons.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

Authority figure takes a troubled quasi criminal kid under their wing, sends them to a para military school where they thrive, eventually saving the day with the help of their odd assortment of friends.

That's not beat for beat. That's a very short summary phrased in the vaguest way so as to be coincidental.

 

[tenmei]

Authority figure takes a troubled quasi criminal kid under their wing, sends them to a para military school where they thrive, eventually saving the day with the help of their odd assortment of friends.

So what you're saying is that Police Academy is The X-Men?

 

[Tosk]

So what you're saying is that Police Academy is The X-Men?

Nah, Logan is no kid. He's the oldest one there.

 

[Farscape One]

That's not beat for beat. That's a very short summary phrased in the vaguest way so as to be coincidental.

It's not far off, though. Is it coincidence? Maybe. But it definitely doesn't indicate SFA was doing anything remotely groundbreaking, original, or memorable.

 

[Guy Gardener]

That's not beat for beat. That's a very short summary phrased in the vaguest way so as to be coincidental.

Short woman of colour, with confidence issues who sounds like Minny Mouse, over comes the pressures from her family to become a gun toting bad ass.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

It's not far off, though. Is it coincidence? Maybe. But it definitely doesn't indicate SFA was doing anything remotely groundbreaking, original, or memorable.

Originlity is extremely hard to argue these days. Break anything down into their base components and you can easily argue xyz did this first.

Memorable will always be in the brain of the beholder.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Originlity is extremely hard to argue these days. Break anything down into their base components and you can easily argue xyz did this first.

Memorable will always be in the brain of the beholder.

Massive black dude, seems capable of impressive violence, but he turns out to be a pacifist.

 

[BillJ]

I chalk it up to an interesting failure. Ake/Braka was interesting, the Academy part was a failure.

 

[Farscape One]

Originlity is extremely hard to argue these days. Break anything down into their base components and you can easily argue xyz did this first.

Memorable will always be in the brain of the beholder.

All true points.

Is it the worst show in the franchise? No, I think it's still marginally better than DISCO, mainly because SFA at least tried to do something more with the aftermath of the Burn, rather than it seem like once they found the cause and the dilithium world it's more or less business as usual again. (Bringing back Betazed and the status of/relations with the Klingon Empire, for example, were interesting ideas post-Burn.) I also liked Genesis, Braka, Jay-den, and Ake (more as a character than a Starfleet captain). And there were a couple interesting ideas with some of the others, but I wasn't keen on their execution. (I also like Reno and The Doctor, but since they didn't originate here, I didn't include them with the others I mentioned.)

But I'd place SFA 11th out of the 12 shows.


But one thing is hard to dispute: SFA wasn't lighting any fires or making huge waves.

I chalk it up to an interesting failure. Ake/Braka was interesting, the Academy part was a failure.

Probably the best way to put it: an interesting failure.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

But one thing is hard to dispute: SFA wasn't lighting any fires or making huge waves.

Indeed while the myriad reasons for why will be debated until the end of time it is a sad fact that the show did not have the desired impact.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Indeed while the myriad reasons for why will be debated until the end of time it is a sad fact that the show did not have the desired impact.

If Zoe had used her real accent, 27 million Australians would have tuned in every week. Kim Katral in police Academy was described as a "socialite wanting to give back to the community, who likes a bit of rough." Zoes Steiner was described in Star Fleet Academy as "Princess wanting to give back to galaxy, who likes a bit of rough."