How big was the Enterprise?

[CorporalCaptain]

They haven't though?

There was only a brief period in the nineties when TAS was in limbo, being left out of certain official publications. But even the writers of then-current shows referenced it.

It's been fully back in the official continuity since the mid-2000s.

At a minimum, Lower Decks is dragging all of its TAS references into continuity, many of which are actual plot points, and Lower Decks is holding hands with Strange New Worlds.

 

[fireproof78]

They haven't though?

There was only a brief period in the nineties when TAS was in limbo, being left out of certain official publications. But even the writers of then-current shows referenced it.

It's been fully back in the official continuity since the mid-2000s.

Indeed. Taking TAS out of continuity was ridiculous in the first place and it's being included widens the universe.

 

[Set Harth]

If TAS is in continuity what's the deal with April?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

If TAS is in continuity what's the deal with April?

Different portrayal of the same character. Same boat as Saavik.

 

[Set Harth]

Apples and Romulans.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

If TAS is in continuity what's the deal with April?

For Counter-Clock Incident to be considered canon it'd have to first be considered television, and I'm not sure it qualifies.

 

[Cicero]

It's been fully back in the official continuity since the mid-2000s.

It was used by the licensing regime, but there wasn't an official continuity in the mid-2000s. For several years, no one was making Star Trek. It seems to have been treated similarly by the reboot films as it was in the 90s.

I also hadn't realized that Roddenberry regarded significant parts of TOS as having been out of continuity when he was working on TNG.

 

[Tomalak]

I also hadn't realized that Roddenberry regarded significant parts of TOS as having been out of continuity when he was working on TNG.

I think he (or Maizlish) decided anything that he hadn't personally written was not "canon" at one point. He supposedly claimed TFF was apocryphal, and probably felt the same about the other Bennett movies for which he was frozen out.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

I think he (or Maizlish) decided anything that he hadn't personally written was not "canon" at one point. He supposedly claimed TFF was apocryphal, and probably felt the same about the other Bennett movies for which he was frozen out.

Isn't there a story that says Roddenberry leaked the death of Spock in TWOK to the fans because he was upset about being pushed upstairs into an Executive Producer role and was shut out of the script writing.

 

[Noname Given]

Different portrayal of the same character. Same boat as Saavik.

And now also:
Pike
Number One (Una)
Kirk
Spock
Scotty
Uhura
Chekov
McCoy
M'Benga
...

 

[Tallguy]

And it's full of massive inconsistencies and contradictions.

So is an episode.

Even from an official standpoint, "The Cage" and most of TAS have been considered out of continuity for almost forty years.

The Cage never aired. And (mi mi mi mi mi miiiiiiiii) OF COURSE TAS IS CANON.

At a minimum, Lower Decks is dragging all of its TAS references into continuity, many of which are actual plot points, and Lower Decks is holding hands with Strange New Worlds.

TAS never left. You don't have scripts by, well, EVERYONE, Roddenberry with a producer credit, run by DC Fontana, and, oh, THE ORIGINAL CAST and say "Naaaa."

If TAS is in continuity what's the deal with April?

What's the deal with the Gorn? What's the deal with CHAPEL?

 

[HotRod]

What's the deal with the Gorn? What's the deal with CHAPEL?

 

[Mudd]

The usefulness of that is in setting limits on which works "count" when sifting through the narrative recreationally. It's a player contrivance, not a matter of authorial intent.

Since people don't agree on it and there are no arbiters that matter, what limits are set?

The existance of canon is a delusion.