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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x09 – “300th Night”

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Brus Naka seems more like 'Hannibal of Carthage' than 'Hannibal Lecter'.
Any (Psycho-Path/Serial-Killer) portrayals seems to be a giant (decoy/facade/show) for his real "End Game" to isolate the UFP & preventing them from spreading.
Good point. I look forward to seeing if you're right.

It’s interesting that unlike previous eras where most threat powers were mainly “monospecies”, in SFA’s time the major non-Breen enemy powers — the Emerald Chain, the Venari Ral — share pretty much the same species as the Federation, including humans. Both personally and politically (and with exceptions), everybody tends to be hybridized now. This seems a fairly reasonable outcome of the previous thousand years — both centuries of increasing crossover within and around the Federation, and a century and a half of isolated mixed populations after the Burn.
I've been thinking about that too. Makes a lot of sense.

Kerrice Brooks' adjustments to her performance as SAM 2.0 were fucking astounding.
Yes! I was really pleased to see that Sam feels more grounded now. I also loved her brief interactions with the Doctor. He's become very protective.

I see I'm not the only person who doesn't trust Caleb's mother. :hugegrin:

I enjoyed watching Ake and Kelrec putting their heads together. I also think Braka's plan (however unfeasible it might really be) is quite clever. Why destroy your enemy when you can completely block them off?

Loved the reactions to going through the transwarp conduit too.

For the record, my inner 10 year old thinks it's hysterical that Darem vomits glitter. :nyah:
 
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"And here's a market on Ukeck we made earlier ..."
 
Hey, that's Tracy Island!

Yeah, its from a UK kids show that used to do regular crafts, the show has been running for almost 70 years. The presenter is Anthea Turner.

Following a 1993 toy shortage caused by a Thunderbirds TV revival, the BBC's Blue Peter famously broadcast a guide to building a DIY Tracy Island using household junk. Fronted by Anthea Turner, the iconic, cost-effective make featured a papier-mâché island with a washing-up liquid bottle, loo roll, and yogurt pots, triggering over 100,000 requests for instruction sheets.
 
It's also a longstanding issue I have with these shows that threats should escalate over time. This is particularly true in a YA format, where the first antagonist should be someone who's relatively underpowered, to make their defeat by a handful of kids somewhat believable.

I'll freely admit Braka's plan is a bit more small potatoes compared to some earlier seasons of modern Trek. But it's still a greater threat than was faced in 98% of TOS and TNG episodes.

Quite right . Much of Kurtzman Treks arc based stories all seem to be huge galaxy wide threats. The thing is we already had the burn and several other huge threats now. Whatever happened to exploring strange new worlds and seeking out new life and new civilizations? Even snw rarely explores deep space anymore.
 
Quite right . Much of Kurtzman Treks arc based stories all seem to be huge galaxy wide threats. The thing is we already had the burn and several other huge threats now. Whatever happened to exploring strange new worlds and seeking out new life and new civilizations? Even snw rarely explores deep space anymore.
They're cadets, the most they should be doing is third contacts. :p
 
Well I will say that I am an outsider and not really a fan, you could call me a cynic but Im not really, I am here because I find the show hilariously bad, and I will probably vanish when I grow bored of it.
Appreciate the honesty at least. I don't know why people insist upon watching things they declare as "bad." That is something I cannot grasp. If Something is bad it is not something I will watch. Period. Time is too short.
Now with the intro out of the way it seems at least to my outsider view that people love certain aspects of the setting and certain versions(tng competency porn is a term for a reason) of it and they will try to get anything close to it and crtique the rest.

There is also the "issue" that people who love the the current series will rightfully gush early at the start about the good parts and well why would I just repeat stuff that has already been said. Not that there isnt double critique and double praise to either write it their way or just tldr the previous stuff.
And I get that. But there is a desire for certain aspects, and then the prejudgement that I have see across quarters of Trek fandom. That's the cynical view: it isn't going in desiring to be entertained but going in demanding that they convince them to be entertained before the actual entertainment begins. It feels like this:

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This is why I call it cynical: it isn't approaching any genuine manner to be entertained but setting up a check list for failure and then pointing and laughing when it fails. It feels very unloving, uncompassionate and strange.
As for the spouse part if I was married to trek with its valuing values diversity and optimism and ""humanism"" there are some examples that are jarring for example Kirk at the end of "The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail"(which has two ways to make it look very bad) I would be very confused if that trek was my spouse and would probably consider a divorce. There has been a lack of empathy for "the other" in recent trek(how the other is dealt with and where the line is is something I just like to fixate on).
I just don't see newer Trek lacking diversity, optimism or humanism. In fact, I see way more of it with regards to people who experience trauma and are accepted anyway. I see greater acceptance of people actually being honest with emotions, rather than demanding conformity.

But, more than that, I like Kirk and Academy because it doesn't show me broken in people; it shows me people who are still learning, growing and developing. To borrow a quote from a much better show than Star Trek:


Father Mulcahy: You seem to think Klinger leaves a little something to be desired as a company clerk.

Potter: I think Klinger leaves everything to be desired as a company clerk.

Father Mulcahy: Well, we had a fellow here a while back before you arrived, who was much worse.

Potter: Worse than Klinger? Father, you wouldn't lie to a Presbyterian, would you?

Mulcahy: No. Believe me, this lad was quite a bozo. He couldn't do anything right. Drove everybody crazy with questions. You should have seen him try to patch through a call. Looked like hand-to-hand combat. Folks here were convinced that the enemy had sent him to sabotage the unit.

Potter: Yeah? So whatever happened to this rube?

Mulcahy: Well, as time went by, he got a little better. Your late predecessor, Colonel Blake, rest his soul, took him under his wing and sort of helped him grow into the job.

Potter: You suckered me, Padre. You're talkin' about Radar. The very same bozo.
You see, when you arrived, you got the broken-in model. But my, my. His first few
months were harrowing indeed.

People like their broken in models. They like the comfort and familiarity. But growth doesn't come from familiarity.
 
There is such a thing as amusingly bad, it is a balance and requires it to be bad in a certain way depending on individual tastes as well. "The room" for example was mostly giggle watched I doubt many people suffered through it, and no it isnt something I have a desire to watch.

As for the lack of empathy part it is more about when it gets witheld while it should be given, a glaring example is gleefully blowing up the ship in the first episode.(A longer discussion of this could go offtopic for a bit longer so lets not :D at least not here)

As for the cynical watchers there will always be those and you can't change that, some of them might also come from the fact that they just miss "their star trek" and stick around because there is "nothing else" and rewatches get boring after a while, it isnt always inherently unloving.

Eh I might have also just rewrote what you said a bit differntly, which I now see that I am a bit more awake.

There are quite a few things I miss that are probably gone for a while due to the way things are made today and I will sometimes rant about it to vent. And finding "replacements" can be frustrating, while finding something totaly new is often better it is also often a miss.
 
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