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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x08 – “The Life of the Stars”

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Hahahahahahahaha… oh, you’re serious. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Seriously, Star Trek is a lot of things. High art it is definitely not.

No. None are.


It really depends who you ask. Ive mentionrd several times on these boards anout the minimalistic sets, the lighting and use of color in the lighting to give the illusion of more depth and substance to the sets. It was art in this respect especially in the first season. But even later episodes like Spectre of the Gun used creative lighting and set building because of the low budget and it gave the episide an artistic look. One of my favorites. TOS of all the star trek shoes has a unique look because of the limitations of the technology if the time. It really does look delightful.

Perhaps the original series is high art but only the original. It was the first of its kind on television. It looked great even though they used minimalistic sets. It really changed televised sci fi. Below is the a.i. response. Obviously created by hundreds or thousands of view points on the internet. It coukd be considered high art now or at least medium. Ive often mention my love for the sets and colors. Real talent on those early episodes.



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Is star trek the original series considered high art?

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It depends on who you ask! Traditionally, Star Trek: The Original Series (TOS) was classified as low art because it was a mass-produced television show made for a broad audience.

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However, Star Trek is one of the best examples of why those labels are often ignored today. It is widely considered to have bridged the gap or even "elevated" its genre into something more sophisticated:
Intellectual Depth: Unlike many "campy" shows of its era, TOS explored complex philosophical themes, sociopolitical issues, and psychological dilemmas.
Artistic Intent: Creator Gene Roddenberry explicitly aimed to move science fiction away from "children's programming" by hiring award-winning writers like Harlan Ellison to create "serious" storytelling.
Stylized Visuals: While some call the effects "cheap," modern critics often view the show's use of light, shadow, and bold colors as highly artistic and expressionistic.
Cultural Legacy: Because it has been studied in universities and preserved in the Smithsonian Institution, it now holds a level of "prestige" typically reserved for high art.

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In short, it started as "low art" pop culture but has been "canonized" into a form of high-brow cultural heritage.
Do you think a show needs realistic effects to be taken seriously as art, or is it all about the writing?


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In the traditional sense, Star Trek: The Original Series (TOS) is not high art; it was created as mass-market commercial television, a hallmark of low art. However, modern critics often argue that it has ascended to high art status through its intellectual depth and cultural canonization.
Why it was "Low Art"
Medium: As a 1960s TV show, it was built for mass consumption, advertising revenue, and popular entertainment.
Production: It utilized "state of the art" but budget-constrained practical effects (painted plywood, miniatures, and styrofoam) rather than "elite" fine-art techniques.
Reception: At the time, network executives often viewed it as "too cerebral" for the average viewer, yet it was still categorized alongside "campy" sci-fi of the era.

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Why it is now considered "High Art"
Intellectual & Moral Depth: Unlike typical "pop" TV, TOS used sci-fi as a moral compass to address sociopolitical issues like the Civil Rights movement and the Vietnam War.
Expressionistic Visuals: Critics now praise its stylized use of light and color as a deliberate artistic choice rather than a budget failure.
Institutional Preservation: The original Enterprise model is held by the Smithsonian Institution, a level of institutional "high art" recognition rarely given to pop culture.
Canonization: Decades of academic study and its influence on global culture have moved it into the "classic" category.
 
No, that shows its a part of theater culture.



A few episodes of it certainly are.
Whatever it is, nutrek is a tier or two below old trek. As I said before the new stuff is just streaming slop, even the stuff I like. It doesn't say anything it doesn't do anything it's just there to entertain and be forgotten.
 
As I've noted in the past, Star Trek throughout the TOS and Berman Trek eras was notable for the didactic mode of storytelling. Episodes clobbered you over the head with sledgehammer metaphors, making it absolutely certain you understood what the theme of the week was.

Modern trek, in contrast, often has either muddled or absent theming. Part of this is likely serialization, as it's hard to have a theme of the week on a show like DIS or PIC. But I do have to agree that I've often finished an episode these days and struggled to understand what the point was other than the most surface level of things happening in the plot.

The thing is, SFA is pretty clearly a move back towards thematic storytelling - perhaps engaging with theme more strongly even than SNW. I might not have particularly liked this episode, but I cannot deny the ambition to tell a thematically woven story within a largely self-contained episode here.
 
Whatever it is, nutrek is a tier or two below old trek. As I said before the new stuff is just streaming slop, even the stuff I like. It doesn't say anything it doesn't do anything it's just there to entertain and be forgotten.
I'll take any episode of SFA against Move Along Home, Code of Honor, Where No One Has Gone Before, or the one ep of DS9 with a leprechaun.
 
I'll take any episode of SFA against Move Along Home, Code of Honor, Where No One Has Gone Before, or the one ep of DS9 with a leprechaun.
Or The Alternative Factor, And the Children Shall Lead, Angel One, Profit and Loss, Let He Who is Without Sin, Threshold, either of the holodeck episode set in Fairhaven, A Night in Sickbay, These are the Voyages, Four and a Half Vulcans....

The list is pretty extensive. Episode 7 wasn't great but it wasn't a stinker along the lines of any of the above mentioned.
 
Or The Alternative Factor, And the Children Shall Lead, Angel One, Profit and Loss, Let He Who is Without Sin, Threshold, either of the holodeck episode set in Fairhaven, A Night in Sickbay, These are the Voyages, Four and a Half Vulcans....

The list is pretty extensive. Episode 7 wasn't great but it wasn't a stinker along the lines of any of the above mentioned.
I wrote that at 7:40 in the morning and couldn't bring any other forgettable episodes to mind because I'd forgotten them. :rommie:
 
It doesn't say anything it doesn't do anything it's just there to entertain and be forgotten.
Sticking just to this series:

"Kids These Days" has something to say about family separation.

"Beta Test" is about compromise and reconciliation.

"Vitus Reflux" has a subplot about recognizing when to lead and when to follow, based on one's skill set rather than one's ego.

"Vox in Excelso" is about cultural competency.

"Series Acclimation Mil" is about a need for ancestors, role models, finding one's place in history in order to inform one's future.

"Come, Let's Away" is about sacrifice vs. cynicism, for both the students and their teachers.

"Ko'Zeine" is about individual freedom vs. collectivist responsibility (coming down, as Star Trek often does, mostly in favor of the former).

And this thread is full of people talking about what "The Life of the Stars" means.
 
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I'll take any episode of SFA against Move Along Home, Code of Honor, Where No One Has Gone Before, or the one ep of DS9 with a leprechaun.
The only one of the ones you listed that is genuinely bad is "Code of Honor", and it's really the casting that brings it down hard. (The script itself would put it as mediocre.)

"IF WISHES WERE HORSES" wasn't bad, but it was mediocre.

"Where No One Has Gone Before" was pretty damn good. Good story with some interesting ideas that was executed pretty good.

"MOVE ALONG HOME" is genuinely good. I've mentioned many times the reasons why.
 
Whatever it is, nutrek is a tier or two below old trek. As I said before the new stuff is just streaming slop, even the stuff I like. It doesn't say anything it doesn't do anything it's just there to entertain and be forgotten.
Nope.
 
The only one of the ones you listed that is genuinely bad is "Code of Honor", and it's really the casting that brings it down hard. (The script itself would put it as mediocre.)

"IF WISHES WERE HORSES" wasn't bad, but it was mediocre.

"Where No One Has Gone Before" was pretty damn good. Good story with some interesting ideas that was executed pretty good.

"MOVE ALONG HOME" is genuinely good. I've mentioned many times the reasons why.
It's her opinion and preferences. There are people who actually like "Code of Honor. Again, their opinion.
 
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