I wonder if Ake and Jet think Caleb will do so....and just don't realize he has no interest in it.
Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x08 – “The Life of the Stars”
I wonder if Ake and Jet think Caleb will do so....and just don't realize he has no interest in it.
36 at 9 or 10, 11 at 1 or 2. I wouldn't say that's particularly polarising.
Every episode has a fair few 1s from troll reviews.
I think the pattern is, every 2.5 episodes we get something spectacular, and this episode is that. Wow, an unadulterated 10 for this.
There are two stories here, similar in dramatic tone and flavor, joined by the plot device of a play, and they both work synergistically well.
There was some fan puzzlement about SAM's technical issues and also some of the Docs reactions, and we see now this was all planned out for the season. It makes the whole season stronger.
The Doc sadly, never recovered from losing his daughter, how tragic, it was a unique thing to him...as opposed to the common problem of out-living everyone he knows and having time to digest it. There was a profound moment that hung still in the air for me...declaring he could not love, to withstand the centuries...how powerful then that he becomes the de facto father. Wow, moving.
I also was moved by the very tangible and heartfelt relationship between Caleb and Tarima, but it goes deeper; Tarima had to do her own healing, not just in relation to Caleb.
I was not familiar with the play, which apparently is considered one of the "great American plays", but it was used effectively here, and reading about it helped my appreciation.
There are two stories here, similar in dramatic tone and flavor, joined by the plot device of a play, and they both work synergistically well.
There was some fan puzzlement about SAM's technical issues and also some of the Docs reactions, and we see now this was all planned out for the season. It makes the whole season stronger.
The Doc sadly, never recovered from losing his daughter, how tragic, it was a unique thing to him...as opposed to the common problem of out-living everyone he knows and having time to digest it. There was a profound moment that hung still in the air for me...declaring he could not love, to withstand the centuries...how powerful then that he becomes the de facto father. Wow, moving.
I also was moved by the very tangible and heartfelt relationship between Caleb and Tarima, but it goes deeper; Tarima had to do her own healing, not just in relation to Caleb.
I was not familiar with the play, which apparently is considered one of the "great American plays", but it was used effectively here, and reading about it helped my appreciation.
She explains why it was worthwhile in a previous episode. It provided her structure and discipline outside of her lofty position on Betazed, which she didn't have before.
It's more of a mental barrier than physical one. It was symbolic and internal to her.
The same discipline and structure that gets undercut in the same episode since they started a prank war
They consider it a manifestation of military thinking like American football being a strategic game, etc. It's a game of intellectually bettering your opponent...though yes, they are pranks not winning territory.
Not saying I approve, just that's how they view it.
Still a very selfish thing to do considering both serve starfleet as in defeating the main goal for personal satisfaction even if "justified in their mind" and I guess it could be with the "football mindset"
Still a dick move to tranfer her just like that if we ignore the prank war and take her word for what the whole thing means to her as you said.
Still a dick move to tranfer her just like that if we ignore the prank war and take her word for what the whole thing means to her as you said.
I imagine Daddy had something to do with the transfer too. She stamps her feet about going back, he agrees as long as its on his terms.
I dont remember him being mentioned, as in they present it as the war college councilors idea? Or both councilors?
In which case your headcannon would make her dad a coward and or the councilors liars? Not sure how exactly it happened though, would need to rewatch it to be sure
In which case your headcannon would make her dad a coward and or the councilors liars? Not sure how exactly it happened though, would need to rewatch it to be sure
It were the very same plays/novels for me, too! Plus Max Frisch's "Homo Faber" and Günter Grass' "Die Blechtrommel" ("The Tin Drum").
I think I had heard the title of "Our Town" somewhere before, but knew next to nothing about it before yesterday.
As someone who sometimes watches opera on DVD/BD, I liked they included the famous tune from Delibes' "Lakmé" and referenced Puccini's "Tosca" this time, after the Doctor had sung Mozart in the 2nd episode.
We definitely had “Die Blechtrommel” as well, but I was limiting myself specifically to plays in that post. Although our teacher seemed to be keen on reading more modern / current stuff with us, as we also read Patrick Süskind’s “Das Parfum” and Bernhard Schlink’s “Der Vorleser”. In English it was Golding’s “Lord of the Flies” and Bernard MacLaverty’s “Cal”.
Tarima's uniform reminded me of when TNG used to throw flashback people into a cheap version of the monster maroons.
Incidentally, Tarima is wearing the grey version of …
By the way, I thought that final shot of the episode was superb. I love that the show allows itself to do stuff like this …
… the same dress variant that Genesis is going to be wearing in command red in season two.
By the way, I thought that final shot of the episode was superb. I love that the show allows itself to do stuff like this …
Never heard of it or Arsenic and Old Lace for that matter.
The big big hits from Steinbeck or Tennesee Williams are the only times you see any sort of depression era or classic American stories in Ireland especially in school.
As for university you only do classes related to your subject. A science student would not be doing literature etc.
Gave it a 5. .Mid Mid Mid..
Its like, the writers or showrunners can come up with a decent concept, like this episodes was. but the follow thru was.. Meh.
The thing with Tilly and the Scooby Gang was ok, Having them face there trauma was good idea, and the Theatre part was interesting, but underdone. Making Tilly the "old man of the sea" a "Great" instructor after the abomination of her Discovery "Instructor" Episode.. was... weird. But she was good here. Where was this confidence.. well.. ALL OF Discovery??
The Sam/Doc side was SO Underwhelming.. Oh this is the Doc episode where he faces his phobia of caring for others after... ... 800 YEARS!! You'd think after That amount of time he would come to the conclusion that he is functionally Immortal, and that caring for others, having them in his life means that he'll likely see them die of old age.
Now after Generations of this, and maybe the burn he may have withdrawn, but the writing doesn't say that, They make it seem that after Voyagers crew dies, that he was Withdrawn.. FOR 800 YEARS. I Generally HATE this part of SA. They make the intervening years from the 25th century.. Meaningless. That everyone just kinda cruses thru or nothing meaning full or important happens.
Its just.. Some extra words from him would have made it pop. Like, I cared about people for so long but after the burn, seeing so many die early, I withdrew myself, I didn't want to feel this bad ever again.
And the like 5 seconds of "Memory's" of being Sam's dad.. was like. Huh? Thats it? Like I said, good concept of the Doc standing up and helping Sam, but the follow through was quite Middling..
Should have made the Doc's Story an A Story, give it an extra 5-10 minutes of room to grow, and it would have been a banger episode. .but no.
Its like, the writers or showrunners can come up with a decent concept, like this episodes was. but the follow thru was.. Meh.
The thing with Tilly and the Scooby Gang was ok, Having them face there trauma was good idea, and the Theatre part was interesting, but underdone. Making Tilly the "old man of the sea" a "Great" instructor after the abomination of her Discovery "Instructor" Episode.. was... weird. But she was good here. Where was this confidence.. well.. ALL OF Discovery??
The Sam/Doc side was SO Underwhelming.. Oh this is the Doc episode where he faces his phobia of caring for others after... ... 800 YEARS!! You'd think after That amount of time he would come to the conclusion that he is functionally Immortal, and that caring for others, having them in his life means that he'll likely see them die of old age.
Now after Generations of this, and maybe the burn he may have withdrawn, but the writing doesn't say that, They make it seem that after Voyagers crew dies, that he was Withdrawn.. FOR 800 YEARS. I Generally HATE this part of SA. They make the intervening years from the 25th century.. Meaningless. That everyone just kinda cruses thru or nothing meaning full or important happens.
Its just.. Some extra words from him would have made it pop. Like, I cared about people for so long but after the burn, seeing so many die early, I withdrew myself, I didn't want to feel this bad ever again.
And the like 5 seconds of "Memory's" of being Sam's dad.. was like. Huh? Thats it? Like I said, good concept of the Doc standing up and helping Sam, but the follow through was quite Middling..
Should have made the Doc's Story an A Story, give it an extra 5-10 minutes of room to grow, and it would have been a banger episode. .but no.
Did anyone else notice that Sam's homeworld was a big cube? Kind of reminded me of a Borg cube.
Voyager walked so SFA could run.
Looked kind of like an octahedron or something to me.
Yeah, I wondered what the idea behind that was. Was that indeed supposed to be the planet itself? Or some Dyson Sphere-esque outer hull around the actual planet? Some kind of force field perhaps?
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