Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x06 – “Come, Let’s Away”

[Tosk]

Woops, meant Layton not Preston.

You think that Red Squad were assigned to the Valiant in the hopes that they might be killed (alongside all the actual officers on board) in an attempt to stop them testifying against Admiral Leyton?

Who arranged it and why? And what of the other people that would be able to testify against him? Were they all sent out into "maybe dangerous" assignments?

Watching cadets read books and practice with nerf guns doesn’t sound like compelling TV to me.

Does a prank war sound like compelling TV?

 

[Turtletrekker]

So far they have had an attack on the Athena the first day because of a cadet (caleb) breaking the rules gaining the attention of a dangerous alien Baraka and nearly getting the whole crew and the cadets killed. The cadet doesnt get expelled and now a deadly alien knows about the academy and where the two people he hates are.. They later take the cadets on a mission to an unsecured area and they get taken hostage from dangerous aliens. So what do the grown ups do? They ask Baraka for help. He doesnt help and a cadet is murdered and Baraka attacks both the Athena and another starship and murders several other starfleet officers. Ive never run an Academy but im pretty sure I wouldn't run it that way.

Needs of the plot. Unforeseen circumstances are just that -- unforeseen. You keep saying that the graveyard was an unsecured area, but they had no idea of knowing that it had been infiltrated. Just as Kirk had no way of knowing that Reliant had been commandeered when he was commanding a boatload of cadets.

As for security, how many times was the security of the Federation flagship breached in TNG? So many times that they put a lampshade on it and made a joke about it when Worf went over to DS9. Needs the plot.

As for working with people that we hate, or know we have an agenda -- how many times was Sisko or Kira forced to work with Gul Dukat? It's called drama.

 

[cooleddie74]

Does a prank war sound like compelling TV?

Worked for Jackass for several years.

 

[Farscape One]

I love the fact that we’re all experts on how a space academy in the year 3,190 should realistically work.

There's something to be said about not risking the lives of the people you are teaching, if you have the ability to do that. (We don't have holodecks, so we have to use live trainings in various fields.)

I agree that a live mission would be necessary at some point simply to weed out the cadets who can't cut it, in addition to the goal here of getting them all to work together.

I think a different situation and mission could have been used for the goals they were going for here. It didn't stop me from enjoying the episode, but there's some truth to some of the criticisms of this episode's scenario.

 

[Farscape One]

Watching cadets read books and practice with nerf guns doesn’t sound like compelling TV to me.

Neither is teen drama and a prank war.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Pranking is aways compelling entertainment.

 

[1001001]

Does a prank war sound like compelling TV?

Yes.

 

[fireproof78]

There's something to be said about not risking the lives of the people you are teaching, if you have the ability to do that. (We don't have holodecks, so we have to use live trainings in various fields.)

So that time as an intern I had a lockdown due to the building being threatened by a person with a gun should be scheduled for after my internship?

Yes.

*watches MASH and Night Court*

Agreed

 

[arch101]

This episode, more than any other so far, makes me wish for a 32nd century show WITHOUT the Academy and the kids. The larger story has now taken a really interesting turn- it seems a lot of people are not really happy that the Federation is back. Unfortunately, we are saddled with the boat anchor that is the teens and their school adventures. Maybe the poor ratings will force a retool.

 

[Nerys Myk]

This episode, more than any other so far, makes me wish for a 32nd century show WITHOUT the Academy and the kids. The larger story has now taken a really interesting turn- it seems a lot of people are not really happy that the Federation is back. Unfortunately, we are saddled with the boat anchor that is the teens and their school adventures. Maybe the poor ratings will force a retool.

That would be a different show.

 

[arch101]

That would be a different show.

As different as Space:1999 year 2, Seaquest year 2 or War of the Worlds year 2.

 

[Nerys Myk]

As different as Space:1999 year 2, Seaquest year 2 or War of the Worlds year 2.

Well, definity not a show that could use the term "Academy".

 

[Tosk]

Yes.

Then why did you try to imply that if the ship was holographic training instead of the real thing that the show would be toothless? You described that theoretical show as reading books and Nerf guns, and left out the other stuff that the show has already done.

(Just to be clear, I personally don't care if they go into danger or not.)

 

[Detached Nacelle]

This episode, more than any other so far, makes me wish for a 32nd century show WITHOUT the Academy and the kids.

So, Discovery then?

 

[Elaise]

The ship graveyard had long been established as a safe training ground. Their campus is literally a warp capable starship. The fact that it was unexpected and unforeseen was a part of Braka's trap.

That was before Dilithium was a wide spread thing again. It was widespread enough that the federation was selling the extra.

 

[Farscape One]

So, Discovery then?

By the Prophets, no. We already suffered enough with that show and all its shrink sessions and bad writing.

 

[Fateor]

That was before Dilithium was a wide spread thing again. It was widespread enough that the federation was selling the extra.

Well yeah, the Federation doesn't need it anymore because they have the Pathfinder drive.

 

[Turtletrekker]

So, Discovery then?

I would love a new season of Discovery set concurrent with Academy.

 

[Elaise]

I love the fact that we’re all experts on how a space academy in the year 3,190 should realistically work.

I think we are more experts than the people in charge, lol.

Hell, trekyards came up with a much better idea for Ep5 than the people in charge.

 

[Farscape One]

I think we are more experts than the people in charge, lol.

I think more double checking should happen with these multi million dollar episodes.

Like making sure all those errors don't occur on Sisko's family tree. Or that Vulcans bleed green, not red.