Back 27 years ago. At the Time. Thats why they changed the ending.
His sign off might have been.. I don't care anymore, I'm retired doin my own thing. Do what you will .
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His sign off might have been.. I don't care anymore, I'm retired doin my own thing. Do what you will .
To me, it's more than plausible that many of Dax's unknown hosts during that time had nothing to do with Starfleet.
It was more than that
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And that Trill until Disco Season 3 where Tal was of an age, was largely isolated and clearly Dax was off-planet and the Trill may have beliebed them deceased.
Na, it just meant the trips took a week or two instead of a day.
They were obviously lying, a lot.
Realistically speaking, Dax was sure to return eventually, so that whole storyline was always more then a little silly.
Hah! Same. I was literally thinking - isn't he supposed to be the show's big bad?
Agreed. I don't know why anyone pretends this is so difficult to understand. Obviously Benjamin Sisko is NOT a deadbeat dad - even if he stayed in the Celestial Temple and never returned per the original ending. Sisko is clearly a model figure for a parent in all the ways that matter.
The issue is not necessarily IN UNIVERSE. The issue is that in the real world - there is a negative stereotype leveraged against African-American fathers as being someone who makes a family but then abandons them. In no way, even with the best science fiction reasoning, did Brooks want Sisko to be a man that leaves his family behind. In the show, he chooses to stay with the Prophets to learn from them and teach them. It's not a case that he is trapped there against his will. Since it is a choice to remain with them, he is essentially leaving his family behind to pursue his "destiny." It's why Brooks wanted them to at least add that at SOME point, he would return. Since it isn't linear, he could be with the Prophets for a million years and return one second after talking to Kassidy or a year later or whenever.
This is an OUT OF UNIVERSE reasoning behind it. Unfortunately, the average viewer may watch a film or show and point out a stereotype and claim to see truth in it or leverage it against a person in real life. Is it dumb that a person watches a film/show and think there is "truth" about any group of people? YES. But that is the grim reality of it and Brooks was conscious of that. He did not want Sisko, a character that did a lot to be a positive role model, to reinforce it in any way.
This is not that complicated.
I think he might care to some degree, but I did notice that he does not seem to want to directly be involved with Trek anymore. He's just done with it and said all he wanted to say. When he didn't come back for the What You Leave Behind documentary - I thought he was just officially done with all things Trek.
It's hard to read his feelings on this as all we get are second-hand follow ups on people that spoke with him. I don't doubt that Cirroc took great care on this, though. I suspect that down the line - maybe at a convention or future interview - it will be directly asked to Cirroc or Tawny how Brooks specifically felt about his character's return being so "ominous" in light of what he felt in the 90s.
I can only guess he probably gave his blessing because Tawny implied that Sisko DOES return. She said that they were super conscious of Sisko's promise to return but they felt restricted because there has been no mention of Sisko coming back (I am assuming she meant the Picard series, Prodigy, or Lower Decks never talking about him). Now suddenly they are restricted by canon. The one time they should have just filled in the gaps with their own narrative. *SIGH*It was more than that
Interview: Tawny Newsome On “Gargantuan Task” To Give DS9 “Resolution” On ‘Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’
The 'Lower Decks' star co-wrote the latest episode of 'Starfleet Academy.'
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I know back with the Deep Space Nine finale, it was important to Avery for Sisko to say he was going to return in some form so the character was not someone who abandons his family. How did that factor into exploring the mystery of Sisko?
"It was massively important to all of us in the writers room to honor that request. And then we had to square that with the fact that we have seen a lot added to the canon, and there hasn’t been any mention of seeing him. So that puts you in a little bit of a storytelling quandary. How do we say this man came back, yet nobody’s talked about him, and we haven’t seen hide nor hair of him? So we sort of had to get into the territory of something that maybe science and Starfleet records can’t explain. So that’s why we wanted to put it in Jake’s mouth at the end where he literally says, “I can’t prove it.” But all those things you think he missed, he didn’t. He was there."
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Again, she seems to imply Sisko did return in some capacity. She said they wanted to "honor that request". I don't know why the episode made it so cryptic.
Does it look like he approved the script? Yes - I don't see Cirroc disrespecting Brook's legacy like that. Was it still a weird choice in light of Sisko literally telling Kassidy he would return? Also - yes.
Why didn't SAM just beam to the museum in New Orleans? It's not as if it's far with current tech.
I guess this episode also confirms that this is indeed Voyager Doctor and not his duplicate.
I'm glad you don't let people spoil your enjoyment of a lesser quality product.
25% different.
Was probably A.I. search results.
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I assume they didn't want to be the ones to set something in canon, especially if they knew they wouldn't get Brooks to appear in the episode or even be able to use his image/likeness.
The return is represented as a matter of faith. The Brooks poem they chose implies that as well... I think that's a fair compromise to leaving it open and also saying that he was with them the whole time.
I mean the fact that it's up for debate now is basically a manifestation of the debate in the show. Either you believe he "returned", whatever that may mean based on what Jake wrote in Anslem, or he didn't because he didn't actually appear.
Haha. I was thinking the Mork thing also. Even to the point where she totally disrespects her higher up at the end. So now we have Harry Potter vibes and Mork in this show. Anything else???
Why?
I doubt that
Lower Decks did actually talk about Sisko still being in the Celestial Temple in 2381 during the episode with the Starfleet recruitment booth.
Exactly. I have kids, nieces and work with kids. Problems and learning are human growth opportunities and the pooh-poohing of these experiences breaks my heart a little.
In universe it was the information that was returned when an AI (SAM) searched for it, so you are technically correct. The best kind of correct!
Meridian vacation?
Probably Implied that he was watching from afar. Went to far with "Deadbeat Dad" sorry. But still, With Picard,now Sisko, not physically being there to raise there child is a Bad reoccurring theme as of late. And i still say Lazy wriiting. There's a difference from "Watching from afar" to actually being there raising your child.
As for " No real cannon that he returned".. Ah.. So make it? Just say he quietly returned in 2385 or so and led a quiet life with his family on Bajor or somewhere else where they would have peace and quiet. Could have had "Dax" say that or Jake say it when they were reading the unpublished book.
Like when they brought back Tucker in the books. Lead a quiet life on Vulcan with T'Pol. No cannon says so but none that doesn't either.
As for " No real cannon that he returned".. Ah.. So make it? Just say he quietly returned in 2385 or so and led a quiet life with his family on Bajor or somewhere else where they would have peace and quiet. Could have had "Dax" say that or Jake say it when they were reading the unpublished book.
Like when they brought back Tucker in the books. Lead a quiet life on Vulcan with T'Pol. No cannon says so but none that doesn't either.
That's what our imaginations are for.
As a prolific headcanoneer I say if someone can make a Sisko returns scenario work for them then I salute them and say more power to them.
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