Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[Noname Given]

Picard basically telling an entire planet of proto-Vulcan humanoids they're superstitious rubes and that he's not going to participate in their stupid worldview was probably his lowpoint in TNG from a "warm character you want to like and root for" perspective. Yes, the Mintakans were Bronze Age primitives but if real world explorers pulled the shit Picard did in that episode they'd be rightfully excoriated as colonialist pricks who can't resist playing the "I'm more evolved than you" card. I like that episode, but Picard does not come off looking good for most of it.

I still marvel that these were considered 'Proto-Vulcans' at all given that actual primitive Vulcans on Vulcan were violently killing and waring with each other until they got to the point their planet was nearly destroyed by their own hand and Surak came along with his focus on Logic and expulsion of all emotion.
^^^
It's like the writer of the episode never really/actually watched any earlier Star Trek than TNG itself at the time - and didn't know the established history of Vulcan civilization in the first place.

 

[fireproof78]

like the writer of the episode never really/actually watched any earlier Star Trek than TNG itself at the time - and didn't know the established history of Vulcan civilization in the first place.

In TNG? I am shocked, shocked, I say.

 

[Tuskin38]

Photos From The ‘Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’ World Premiere

The stars turned out for the NYC event on Tuesday.

trekmovie.com

 

[ToddCam]

General curiosity question: did anyone else want to go to Starfleet Academy as a younger fan? I've had a fascination with the cadet life for a while now but I suspect many imagine themselves as officers first.

As much as I wanted to see a show about Starfleet Academy, I can't say I ever thought about me attending it, or even being in Starfleet. For the most part, I don't think I ever fantasized about being in any sort of fictional world. I thought maybe it would be cool to have superpowers, but not even my beloved X-Men appealed to me in that way.

 

[Turtletrekker]

As much as I wanted to see a show about Starfleet Academy, I can't say I ever thought about me attending it, or even being in Starfleet. For the most part, I don't think I ever fantasized about being in any sort of fictional world. I thought maybe it would be cool to have superpowers, but not even my beloved X-Men appealed to me in that way.

"I don't want to be an X-Man, I want to be an Avenger!"

 

[ToddCam]

"I don't want to be an X-Man, I want to be an Avenger!"

In the 1990s, when I got into comics it was exclusively with the X-Men and related comics. I was aware of the Avengers, but they were far from part of the general culture, at least not in the same way as they are nowadays. I most definitely didn't want to join them! Though maybe I would have thought it was safer...?

 

[Turtletrekker]

In the 1990s, when I got into comics it was exclusively with the X-Men and related comics. I was aware of the Avengers, but they were far from part of the general culture, at least not in the same way as they are nowadays. I most definitely didn't want to join them! Though maybe I would have thought it was safer...?

I got into comics with the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man and then the Avengers when they crossed over with Fantastic Four. The X-Men came much later for me.

 

[cooleddie74]

I still marvel that these were considered 'Proto-Vulcans' at all given that actual primitive Vulcans on Vulcan were violently killing and waring with each other until they got to the point their planet was nearly destroyed by their own hand and Surak came along with his focus on Logic and expulsion of all emotion.
^^^
It's like the writer of the episode never really/actually watched any earlier Star Trek than TNG itself at the time - and didn't know the established history of Vulcan civilization in the first place.

"Proto-Vulcan" probably meant nothing more than "pointy ears and upswept eyebrows and generally looking like very primitive Vulcans." And they actually look more TNG Romulan than they do Vulcan.

 

[fireproof78]

As much as I wanted to see a show about Starfleet Academy, I can't say I ever thought about me attending it, or even being in Starfleet. For the most part, I don't think I ever fantasized about being in any sort of fictional world. I thought maybe it would be cool to have superpowers, but not even my beloved X-Men appealed to me in that way.

I get that.

 

[Tosk]

Photos From The ‘Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’ World Premiere

The stars turned out for the NYC event on Tuesday.

trekmovie.com

"Oh geez, they told me we'd all be in uniform..."

 

[camdudetenger2018]

i am still hoping that starfleet academy is like a teen drama style star trek tv show since the show is about the students at starfleet

 

[I am not Spock]

any word on a third season yet? I hope it gets one, that will piss off the haters

 

[Starflight]

It's interesting how the shows tend to treat Starfleet Academy as the place where you learn everything about your upcoming role, where they're offering xenobiology and engineering courses and such. Surely you'd already have a degree of some kind in those subjects prior to applying to SFA, and the academy would mostly be about relentlessly drilling you into preparedness for functioning in a high-stress military command structure, and stuff like emergency first aid, phaser operation, etc.

I also always found it kind of weird that you'd often see ensigns (presumably relatively recent graduates) in their thirties or older in the shows, but every time SFA is mentioned/shown it's just a bunch of 18 year olds getting into japes.

 

[Tuskin38]

i am still hoping that starfleet academy is like a teen drama style star trek tv show since the show is about the students at starfleet

Starfleet academy is more like a college or university. It is not high school

 

[Tuskin38]

TrekMovie has said they’ll be releasing a spoiler free review of the entire first season. So sounds like they didn’t hold any episodes back for the media.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Starfleet academy is more like a college or university. It is not high school

true but usually shows set in collage and universitys is sometimes under teen dramas gerne

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's interesting how the shows tend to treat Starfleet Academy as the place where you learn everything about your upcoming role, where they're offering xenobiology and engineering courses and such. Surely you'd already have a degree of some kind in those subjects prior to applying to SFA, and the academy would mostly be about relentlessly drilling you into preparedness for functioning in a high-stress military command structure, and stuff like emergency first aid, phaser operation, etc.

I also always found it kind of weird that you'd often see ensigns (presumably relatively recent graduates) in their thirties or older in the shows, but every time SFA is mentioned/shown it's just a bunch of 18 year olds getting into japes.

A lot of "Tapestry" Picards in the Fleet

 

[Turtletrekker]

true but usually shows set in collage and universitys is sometimes under teen dramas gerne

But on those other shows are the colleges and universities active duty starships at the same time?

 

[Jayson1]

To my mind, referring to Discovery as STD or even ST: D indicates a low level of emotional maturity that tends to say a lot about the poster in question. Trolling at its most trollish.

I think it is used as trolling but I do find it kind of funny in the sense that I don't even see it as a bad thing. It's a funny mistake that they somehow didn't figure out that people would notice the abbreviation would be STD. Sometimes peoples minds are just not dirty enough. Like those people who invented Shake Weights back in the day. No way did they know what people would think about them.

 

[Set Harth]

oh they knew.