Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[Jason X-Mas]

It's really not. This is the dumb assumptions that people apply based on nothing but their own biases.

I think it's more based on it being created by people who created Discovery. People simply expect more of the same. Which seems logical because if they wanted something truly different they would have hired new people to make a new show. Just like how all Berman shows contain certain traits and tone in all of them, it means all Kurtzman shows will also be connected in a similar way.

The question is will it be a good version of this like SNW or bad one like Discovery. I think the odds are it being more Discovery than SNW. It's not promising when you see things like the group photo of the teens looking like a promotion photo for something you would have likely seen on the CW, just a few years ago. The show creators have been very clear the point of the show is to bring in new and younger fans.

They aren't going for a prestige tv crowd or old people with nostalgia. It''s the youngsters who like things like Tik Tok and frankly I am not exactly sure about all the things young people are into but I do know it's not really tv. Not like it is with older people .Tv and movies don't seem to matter to them as much as they did to previous generations. Which is fine. My generation didn't hangout out in malt shops and listen to radio programs. But at the same time I don't think it bolds well for this show..

The issue I think with Trek is frankly it's old. Even when you update it for modern audiences you can only go so far, while still keeping it Star Trek. Makes sense to me that most people who like Trek are going to basically be old people and young people with old people tastes in entertainment. At some point Trek will become totally irrelevant as boomers and Gen-Xers die and even though that is sad I think it's just something that happens. Young people will have their new things. Like the vr-holodecks that are coming with the help of AI.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

Just like how all Berman shows contain certain traits and tone in all of them, it means all Kurtzman shows will also be connected in a similar way.

Can you cite an example. I can watch a Berman era episode and a Kurzman era episode and it all just feels like Star Trek to me. Other than 90s camera quality and props but that is about the time not the people behind it.

The show creators have been very clear the point of the show is to bring in new and younger fans.

That is not the way Jonathan Frakes tells it.

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

I think it's more based on it being created by people who created Discovery. People simply expect more of the same. Which seems logical because if they wanted something truly different they would have hired new people to make a new show. Just like how all Berman shows contain certain traits and tone in all of them, it means all Kurtzman shows will also be connected in a similar way.

And are they? Thus far the opinions are decidingly mixed.

Tv and movies don't seem to matter to them as much as they did to previous generations. Which is fine. My generation didn't hangout out in malt shops and listen to radio programs. But at the same time I don't think it bolds well for this show..

Tell you know little of young people without telling me you know little about young people.

At some point Trek will become totally irrelevant as boomers and Gen-Xers die and even though that is sad I think it's just something that happens. Young people will have their new things.

If one things this is what is happening then one will have their biases confirmed.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Academy is showing off people becoming more and it's not even aired and being treated poorly.

So what. People can feel the way they want after seeing the preview. It shouldn't spil it for you.

The point is that it won't be made the way many who love the Berman era want it to be.

Too bad. The Berman era especially from tng to voy was excellent. Far better than what kurtman has brought us.

 

[Santa Kang]

I think it's more based on it being created by people who created Discovery.

Which seems logical because if they wanted something truly different they would have hired new people to make a new show

Starfleet Academy created by Gaia Violo Showrunners Noga Landau and Alex Kurtzman.
Discovery created by Bryan Fuller and Alex Kurtzman Showrunners Bryan Fuller, Berg and Harberts. Alex Kurtzman. Michelle Paradise.

Violo has no prior Star Trek credits.
Showrunner Noga Landau has no prior Star Trek credits.

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

So what. People can feel the way they want after seeing the preview. It shouldn't spil it for you.

It doesn't. It's my typical disappointment at the lack of diversity in opinions on Star Trek or reserving judgement.

Too bad. The Berman era especially from tng to voy was excellent. Far better than what kurtman has brought us.

It's not a competition. It's Star Trek. I didn't like VOY but you do. That Trek is out there that you or I don't like shouldn't spoil Star Trek for us, right?

 

[TRON JA307020]

It doesn't. It's my typical disappointment at the lack of diversity in opinions on Star Trek or reserving judgement.


It's not a competition. It's Star Trek. I didn't like VOY but you do. That Trek is out there that you or I don't like shouldn't spoil Star Trek for us, right?

What others think shouldn't spoil what you like. Correct. At the same time what you like doesnt matter to me. But what does matter to me is the quality of the story telling. The way I feel about it. Ill ve watching STA. I'll give it a chance. But im not too keen on whst im seeing. Also the time period is not one I wanted to see more of.

 

[StarTrek1701]

Also the time period is not one I wanted to see more of.

Same here but it's what we are getting, fortunately or unfortunately.
I am impressed with the set design though but still wondering how the story would be.

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

What others think shouldn't spoil what you like. Correct. At the same time what you like doesnt matter to me. But what does matter to me is the quality of the story telling. The way I feel about it. Ill ve watching STA. I'll give it a chance. But im not too keen on whst im seeing. Also the time period is not one I wanted to see more of.

Then why watch it if it's not what you want to see?

Reasonably, one would judge a product based upon experience, not assumptions. Logic.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Then why watch it if it's not what you want to see?

Reasonably, one would judge a product based upon experience, not assumptions. Logic.

Because ill give it a chance. You never know. But im really picky especially when it comes to how the tech is portrayed. From what im seeing things havent changed a whole lot in 900 years. They still havent replaced warp engines and still using starship to traverse the galaxy. You would think they would have something new after 9 centuries. They never even got a spore drive type tech or at keast something that can move the ship long distances in seconds instead of days.

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

You would think they would have something new after 9 centuries

I would?

I don't expect Trek tech to change all that much. Mostly, it's just more temporal tech than anything else. The weapons are about the same, the uniforms the same shades, etc.