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Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley developing Star Trek reboot for Paramount

I refuse to ignore this. Stewart's attitude and his meddling in the "writing" of the four TNG films and Picard have soured me on him and the character of Picard. I used to think it was just an actor's ego, but now it's clear he's a narcissist. Seems he'd have taken into consideration that A) his beloved pals don't have nearly the money or clout he does and B) fans wanted to see the whole cast together again, not just Picard. Of course, all of that is mooted by the fact that the series was "written" by people like Kurtzman and Goldsman.

I don't think him or Spiner had some of the greatest ideas for their characters but I am still and fan of both.
 
what if the reboot of star trek is gonna be in a alternate earth from a timeline where its the very beginning of starfleet that starts from scratch

as in like an alternate earth in a timeline where there was no orignal series no next gen no deep space 9 no voyager no enterpise no discovery no picard
 
what if the reboot of star trek is gonna be in a alternate earth from a timeline where its the very beginning of starfleet that starts from scratch

as in like an alternate earth in a timeline where there was no orignal series no next gen no deep space 9 no voyager no enterpise no discovery no picard
I'd welcome that in a heartbeat. Pull a "For All Mankind" with Star Trek, completely embrace being an alternate timeline.
 
what if the reboot of star trek is gonna be in a alternate earth from a timeline where its the very beginning of starfleet that starts from scratch

as in like an alternate earth in a timeline where there was no orignal series no next gen no deep space 9 no voyager no enterpise no discovery no picard

I like the idea. I am also a fan of the idea of Earth joining the Federation that has been around for years instead of being the main creators of it.
 
a reboot in a alternate earth in a timeline with no connections from the current star trek universes
Eh, yes and no. Yes, it would be unconnected to past Trek series, but the milestones would remain.

  • Nuclear orbital platforms are launched but project abandoned.
  • Mission to Saturn.
  • Eugenics Wars/World War 3 occurs.
  • Cochrane still discovers warp drive.
  • Earth unites and builds up Starfleet, joining an interstellar federation.
  • Romulan war.
 
imagine a verison where starfleet and the federation started in the 1950s after the rosewell crash in 1947

I like the idea but for me I was always into this idea is what if the Enterprise crashed landed on Earth in the 1960's during one of those visits to the past. Then you jump forward to a alternate present day were humans have figured out how use tech and knowledge from crew who survived to make their first warp ship. Humans would then go out and explore a Trek universe in a time period even before First Contact in the Prime Universe. Maybe their was a space plague that killed off lots of the familiar aliens like Klingons and Romulans, Andorians and with them gone new aliens have kind of become the dominated powers in the quadrant.
 
I still like to imagine that the Federation was formed no more than 30~ years before TOS, so many things in TOS only make sense if the Federation is a relatively new creation. A lot of the pre-TOS backstory introduced in the Berman shows (including WW3) is all out of whack IMO.
 
No, I have not. I've argued my viewpoint and opinion based on my personal experiences. Repeatedly being laughed at is not serious. Thank you.

You only recently responded to one--and only one act of "laughing" at one of your claims. Exaggerating something easily verifiable as false only proves you're attempting to shift to the focus to something other than the heart of the discussion.

That is my choice because TMP characters don't connect to TOS counterparts in my humble opinion.

No ever said it was not your choice. The point is your argument is disproven by the content, not the opinion of anyone on TrekBBS.
 
ever said it was not your choice. The point is your argument is disproven by the content, not the opinion of anyone on TrekBBS
It's art and open to interpretation. Kirk is not like Kirk in TOS. He's stuffy, bureaucratic, insensitive and incompetent. That's not Kirk. No, I don't but 18 months or whatever short time he's been promoted that he suddenly lost his edge. It's damn confusing.

THE ENTERPRISE refit is too quick to be believable for the sheer amount of changes done.

The overall tone lacks connective tissue to TOS.

As I said, it's a subjective feeling and that is one that has not gone away since the first time I watched TMP.
 
He must have changed his mind.
As explained in Stewart's autobiography, he succumbed to studio pressure, as the studio really wanted a TNG reunion.
Stewart's attitude and his meddling in the "writing" of the four TNG films
He only had influence over the writing of two of those movies, Insurrection and Nemesis.
all of that is mooted by the fact that the series was "written" by people like Kurtzman and Goldsman.
You do realize it was Kurtzman who made the decision to hire your beloved Lord Terry, right?
 
If this is going to be the last time we see Picard then you want to see him one last time with the TNG gang.

Who is this "you" you speak of?

I admit I got a couple of warm fuzzies when they were all back together, but they didn't make up for everything else in season 3. The reunion wasn't nearly as powerful as the Data scenes or "Nepenthe" back in season 1. And bringing back characters like Ro Laren and Elizabeth Shelby just to kill them off? No, thank you.
 
You do realize it was Kurtzman who made the decision to hire your beloved Lord Terry, right?
It's so funny to me that the Cult of Terry absolutely refuses to admit:

1) Picard would not have happened at all without the existence of Discovery, and;
2) Season 3 as we have it would not have happened without Kurtzman saying yes to Terry's pitch.

I admit I got a couple of warm fuzzies when they were all back together, but they didn't make up for everything else in season 3. The reunion wasn't nearly as powerful as the Data scenes or "Nepenthe" back in season 1. And bringing back characters like Ro Laren and Elizabeth Shelby just to kill them off? No, thank you.
Completely agreed. I was so excited to see the TNG cast back together before the season started, and I stayed excited through the first four episodes. But... I began to sour on it when they shamelessly killed off Ro, and then the wheels completely came off by the time the season was over.

In retrospect, Picard's third season is the hardest about-face I've ever made in my opinion about any season of television.
 
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