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Heaven forbid old Tez would have to acknowledge seasons 1 and 2 in ways that don't take the piss out of them for interfering with his fanfiction.
That’s something that really annoys me about season 3, the almost total disregard for the prior story and characters from the first 20 episodes. Even the things Matalas included seem like he had to grudgingly bring in.
 
That’s something that really annoys me about season 3, the almost total disregard for the prior story and characters from the first 20 episodes. Even the things Matalas included seem like he had to grudgingly bring in.

They would have just been in the way. Picard season 3 is basically a brand new show, only barely connected to the first two seasons. It also makes sense to me. If this is going to be the last time we see Picard then you want to see him one last time with the TNG gang.

Granted most of them at least got closure. Jurati is off with a new kind of Borg, Soji is living with the androids. Rios is in the past and making a difference and in love. Even the ones that comes back have something to look forward to. Laris gets to share Picard with Beverly and Rafi is first officer. Maybe a romance still with Seven. My guess is if that show happened we would see them get back together.
 
That would have been such a great name change for the show in season 3. I just hope we don't seen the TNG characters again, unless at best a small cameo. If your going to basically retire them for the last time, it needs to be the last time we see them.
 
It also makes sense to me. If this is going to be the last time we see Picard then you want to see him one last time with the TNG gang.
Let's just ignore the fact that initially, one of the conditions Patrick Stewart set before agreeing to return to the role of Picard was that he didn't want a TNG reunion outside of a few cameos, which is why we still had Data, Riker and Troi show up in the first season.
 
Let's just ignore the fact that initially, one of the conditions Patrick Stewart set before agreeing to return to the role of Picard was that he didn't want a TNG reunion outside of a few cameos, which is why we still had Data, Riker and Troi show up in the first season.
Fans ignoring reality in favor of their preferences?
 
Let's just ignore the fact that initially, one of the conditions Patrick Stewart set before agreeing to return to the role of Picard was that he didn't want a TNG reunion outside of a few cameos, which is why we still had Data, Riker and Troi show up in the first season.

He must have changed his mind. My guess is he was more okay with it because he went in not expecting a season 4 anyways. I think he was also more okay with it due the fact that we were still seeing the TNG crew who have changed and are no longer the same people they were on the show all of those years ago. RIker and Troi are dealing with the grief of losing a kid. Geordi is a dad. Data is more human. Worf is sort of a pacifist by Klingon standards. Crusher had his kid and left.

Also they staggered them into the show. It wasn't like everyone was together in the first episode and off they all went on a adventure together. I don't think we see Geordi and Data until like episode 6. Crusher shows up in first episode but isn't reunited with Picard until more towards the end. For the first few episodes the story kind of revolves around Picard,Riker,Seven and Shaw and then Picard's son and Geordi's daughter. Worf and Rafi are off doing their thing together for a few episodes.
 
For the first few episodes the story kind of revolves around Picard,Riker,Seven and Shaw and then Picard's son and Geordi's daughter. Worf and Rafi are off doing their thing together for a few episodes.
And Worf and Raffi did well together. But the show unwound and tripped over itself by ignoring past seasons, and character development to get to the reunion.
 
And Worf and Raffi did well together. But the show unwound and tripped over itself by ignoring past seasons, and character development to get to the reunion.

Season 2 was best to be forgotten. I do wish we would have seen more of Laris but I am not sure what else was worth carrying over. The issue that Riker and Troi was going through was something worthwhile from season 1 they did carry over. Ignoring Data's second death was more questionable but heck you can't do a TNG swan song without having Data involved.
 
Season 2 was best to be forgotten. I do wish we would have seen more of Laris but I am not sure what else was worth carrying over. The issue that Riker and Troi was going through was something worthwhile from season 1 they did carry over. Ignoring Data's second death was more questionable but heck you can't do a TNG swan song without having Data involved.
Yes, you can. That's absurdist at best


What did they ignore?

  • Seven and Raffi's relationship in favor of "a break."
  • Riker and Troi's daughter.
  • Riker being back in STARFLEET and utilizing any meaningful connections instead of being stupid.
  • Laris
  • Elnor
  • The STARGAZER
  • Sochi
It's absurd to say "oh, nothing was worth following up on." No, the story that was desired to tell was the reunion tour. Own it. Don't downplay elements.
 
Let's just ignore the fact that initially, one of the conditions Patrick Stewart set before agreeing to return to the role of Picard was that he didn't want a TNG reunion outside of a few cameos, which is why we still had Data, Riker and Troi show up in the first season.
I refuse to ignore this. Stewart's attitude and his meddling in the "writing" of the four TNG films and Picard have soured me on him and the character of Picard. I used to think it was just an actor's ego, but now it's clear he's a narcissist. Seems he'd have taken into consideration that A) his beloved pals don't have nearly the money or clout he does and B) fans wanted to see the whole cast together again, not just Picard. Of course, all of that is mooted by the fact that the series was "written" by people like Kurtzman and Goldsman.
 
A) his beloved pals don't have nearly the money or clout he does
They've all been working regularly as actors, voice actors and directors for the past 20 years if anything a charity job would be insulting to them.
B) fans wanted to see the whole cast together again, not just Picard.
"Fans don't know what's good for them"

There's no meat to a reunion, characters need to develop and move on. After 15 years Riker finally accepted becoming a captain but fans want him to play second fiddle again? Characters need a strong why to returning and there wasn't one which is why we got regressive slop for season 3.

Sulu could have been in Generations but Takei said no for this very reason. And look at the TOS characters, there's so little character development in them for so long, Uhura was just sat at that communications console for 30 years at least SNW has sort of helped out with that by exploring her desire to connect people and finding a place where she belongs. Chekov becomes an XO but no right back to his old place he goes. It's poor storytelling just to keep fans happy.
 
This is what is desired.
As I've gotten older I've desired this less, I like my predictions and expectations challenged, I find it compelling to have happily ever afters torn away. This is why I love both seasons of Picard.

The Fallout show too is doing this, sure my Courier in New Vegas won the day and Mr House had all these grand plans but the world just doesn't work that way so I'm okay with being shown a well actually things didn't work out scenario 15 years later.
 
There's no meat to a reunion, characters need to develop and move on. After 15 years Riker finally accepted becoming a captain but fans want him to play second fiddle again? Characters need a strong why to returning and there wasn't one which is why we got regressive slop for season 3.

That's why, in my opinion as someone who wasn't a studio head and not interested in cashing in on the movie circuit, AGT should have shown the crew going their separate ways by the end of the episode. Picard should have been promoted to Admiral, Riker should have taken over command of the Enterprise-D, he and Troi should have gotten married, Data and Geordi should have gotten their own commands, Crusher should have become head of Starfleet Medical, and Worf should have returned to the Klingon Empire. To have them all continuing to serve together with Picard on two different Enterprises for the next 8 years (and during a major war) was completely unrealistic.
 
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