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Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley developing Star Trek reboot for Paramount

Little bit of a joke. But I do think,while not exactly subtle they did use fan service in a effective way. Except bringing back The Borg and how they used Moriarty. That would be example of bad fan service. Also the fan service has to be looked into the context that season was basically a final goodbye season to the TNG characters. It's basically showing us one final adventure with the old gang and basically offering us a apology for 'Nemesis."
 
It was fan disservice for me, albeit frequently laugh-out-loud funny.

Just the notion of Riker taking out a bunch of intruders with thermal detonators, Worf having a SPECIAL GUN inside his bat'leth's handle, Data's arc ending with him merging with lore then killing victims of S31 atrocities while saying sub-Marvel one-liners, Shelby returning just to be murdered after literally eight seconds, etc

I love how the characters' arcs now canonically start with them on trial for humanity's crimes and insisting they can be better in "Encounter at Farpoint", and end with them doing sick takedowns inside a Borg Death Star.
 
It was fan disservice for me, albeit frequently laugh-out-loud funny.

Just the notion of Riker taking out a bunch of intruders with thermal detonators, Worf having a SPECIAL GUN inside his bat'leth's handle, Data's arc ending with him merging with lore then killing victims of S31 atrocities while saying sub-Marvel one-liners, Shelby returning just to be murdered after literally eight seconds, etc

I love how the characters' arcs now canonically start with them on trial for humanity's crimes and insisting they can be better in "Encounter at Farpoint", and end with them doing sick takedowns inside a Borg Death Star.
Exactly..it undoes character arcs.
 
I genuinely hope this new take isn't a revisiting of Kirk and Spock, and it truly is a new set of characters. Time for a completely new, fresh take! Keep the universe, but meaningfully new please.
I would be happy with that in theory, but in practice, but it wouldn't be enough to get my butt into a movie theater seat. I absolutely loathe going to the theater and it has to be something I'm particularly invested in to get me to subject myself to that particular ordeal. A new crew is something I can wait for home streaming to watch.
 
I genuinely hope this new take isn't a revisiting of Kirk and Spock, and it truly is a new set of characters. Time for a completely new, fresh take! Keep the universe, but meaningfully new please.

Open to what "meaningfully new" looks like!

That is my hope as well. Quite frankly I’m sick of Kirk and Spock.
 
I don't think the new movie will be based on any established characters and if they do it will be a radical different take on the character. Like Spock is a robot now or something like that.
 
Open to what "meaningfully new" looks like!
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If the new movie truly does brand new characters then I hope it's great and it does well. Because if it fails we ain't getting nothing but TOS or TNG reboots afterwards. ;)
 
The idea that Beverly Crusher got pregnant: she's a doctor in the 2th century. It didn't happen by accident. The idea that, in addition to that, she'd think her son was safer running around a lawless area of space than in Picard's comfy place on Earth: that's character assassination. The idea that dozens or hundreds of crew members can be killed and Picard only worries about his son: that's character assassination. Then there's the scene with Riker and Troi discussing the life they were living in one of the show's best episodes, "Nepenthe," and laughing at how stupid they were. More character assassination. Then there's the way they casually killed off a few old characters they could have done so much more with just to convince us things are bad.

The other big flaw in the third season of Picard is the idea that worked in The Wrath of Khan and never again: the idea that a Star Trek story needs a capital-v Villain. Looks like Starfleet Academy is about to make the same mistake, but maybe that'll be over by the end of the first season.
 
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