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Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread
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Looked at the writing credits for Season 1 for the first time, and there's a lot of retreads from other recent series, which surprised me:
- Kristen Beyer has credit on episodes 5, 9, and 10. I know people love her due to the work she's done on the Voyager books, but IMHO her work in modern Trek has been kinda meh.
- Looks like Jane Maggs is in the writer's room, who worked on PIC Seasons 2 (boo) and 3 (eh). Cowrote two episodes here.
- Kenneth Lin is back. He was in the room for latter-day Discovery, having penned two episodes in Season 3, and one in Season 5. Cowrote two here.
- So is Kiley Rossetter. Again, she's a PIC 2/3 writer, with cowriting duties on one episode from each season. Cowrote two here.
- Of course, Tawny Newsom is also here, though she only has cowriting credit on a single episode (which she shares with Beyer).
- Noga Landau - Theoretically the showrunner, but only cowriting credit on episodes 2 and 10.
- Gaia Violo - Sole credit on the premier, and then cowriting credit on three others (more than any other writer this season). Most notable for being the showrunner of the Amazon show Absentia.
- Alex Taub - Most notable recently for work on the Nancy Drew reboot for the CW - a Noga Landau show, so they probably had a working relationship with her. Cowrote two episodes.
- Eric Anthony Glover - Cowrote two episodes this season. This guy has very little experience other than working on a poorly-received Noga Laundau show (Tom Swift).
There were no window/viewscreens in tos. They had a rectangular viewscreen on the bridge. Thats it. It wasn't a window with a viewscreen overlay. That was originated in the Kelvin timeline. The D didn't have a windiw/viewcreen either. Sorry.
Nothing to prove. You're the one making a utterly ridiculous claim with no proof whatsoever.
(And hell, the Box Office results for the 1st two JJ Abrams films show how ridiculous you r claim is. And the third film still did better then the majority of TNG feature films with exception of ST:FC.)
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Established writers aside we should give the show a chance to prove itself though.
Yeah the posters and the trailers sucked, but so did Predator: Badlands but it turned out really great.
Yeah the posters and the trailers sucked, but so did Predator: Badlands but it turned out really great.
Windows are not new technology. Windows are used on current spacecraft. Are we in the Kelvin universe?
Why the fuck do people give weight to trailers? Advertising is always a lie.
The preview clip was definitely very recognisably Kurtzman-era, lots of SFX explosions across the ship and then a big centrepiece bad guy coming in to give his dramatic opening speech.
Honestly I just assume that quite a few of the writers who've worked on streaming-era Trek have come up through the same type of MFA workshops and broadly work to the same "how to write a story" template, there are so many common trends across Discovery, Picard, and SNW that they don't entirely feel like distinct shows, more like various flavours of the same ideas and all with a very distinctive "Bay Area HR conference with psychotherapy speak" kind of tone.
I can tolerate that tone to a degree so I'm still on board with this show and I'm interested in how it'll go (especially the Jem'Hadar character, who I think could turn out very compelling) but I have to admit the preview clip did make me think "I've already watched this exact thing like six times since 2017."
Bro, did you even read what I said?Nothing to prove. You're the one makingn a utterly ridiculous claim with no proof whatsoever.
(And hell, the Box Office results for the 1st two JJ Abrams films show how ridiculous you r claim is. And the third film still did better then the majority of TNG feature films with exception of ST:FC.)
So, you're saying it's Star Trek?
This is an entirely unprovable statement in any direction.
Jesus Christ...
Star Trek has had some downright awful trailers and teasers for decent-to-excellent movies or series. The studio usually casts the widest net to catch enough fish to justify their budgets and expenses.
Sometimes that net just sucks. Badly. Sadly the ads for Section 31 managed to be less awful than the movie itself.
Sometimes that net just sucks. Badly. Sadly the ads for Section 31 managed to be less awful than the movie itself.
He wasn't in the trailer either. I checked.
I knew this kind of pithy reply was coming, but no, I think there's a specific, identifiable flavour to Kurtzman-era Star Trek in what it prioritises and the type of story template it uses.
You could say the same about the Berman era, which also had distinct tonal traits and repeatable storytelling devices. It's not a bad thing, but Kurtzman-era Trek absolutely is concerned with "show four seconds of a routine mission, have half the ship suddenly blow up, introduce a big centrepiece bad guy with a supervillain speech, shift to our heroes having to grapple with their trauma in order to eventually rise to the occasion and fight back in the finale". It's how Discovery starts, it's how Picard S2 and S3 go, it's how S31 goes to an extent, and aspects of it arise in SNW S3.
Again, this isn't even a bad thing, but there is a definite set of attributes common to the streaming-era productions; this'll be exactly the reason fans enjoy them.
Can't even garner a million views after a month.
Mid-tier Youtubers collect views bigger than that in a day.
Technically he is everywhere.
Bring the trailer....closer.
My complaints are more technical - WHY tf are consoles still exploding in the 31st century??
They're continuing the proud Starfleet tradition of building ships that ensure the comms officer is blasted across the room if anything touches any part of the hull.
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