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[Michael]

Guys, please read my previous post above yours. Let’s just altogether cool it on discussing whether someone is overweight or not on the show. For crying out loud, this is some fantasy universe where in an instant they teleport to far-away places, create matter out of thin air like magic and where people from multiple alien worlds all across the galaxy can interbreed — I can’t express how little sense it makes to complain about characters supposedly not looking “fit” enough. And to whose standards exactly? Certainly not to those of a fictional organization in the far-away future. The only reason people would complain about this is because they don’t want to see people that are not traditionally slim on television. And that, again, is blatantly fatphobic bias. Which, again, is not welcome here.

 

[ichab]

Guys, please read my previous post above yours. Let’s just altogether cool it on discussing whether someone is overweight or not on the show. For crying out loud, this is some fantasy universe where in an instant they teleport to far-away places, create matter out of thin air like magic and where people from multiple alien worlds all across the galaxy can interbreed — I can’t express how little sense it makes to complain about characters supposedly not looking “fit” enough. And to whose standards exactly? Certainly not to those of a fictional organization in the far-away future. The only reason people would complain about this is because they don’t want to see people that are not traditionally slim on television. And that, again, is blatantly fatphobic bias. Which, again, is not welcome here.

That is complete and utter bull, but fine. Subject dropped.

 

[Fateor]

Physical Fitness was a required class in Starfleet Academy as of the 24th century.

We have no idea what the graduation requirements are in Discovery's 32nd century.

 

[eschaton]

I thought the clip was...fine. my only real issue with it is how on two occasions (I think the first was "tachyons detected") we cut to a shot of the viewscreen (?) superimposed to take up the whole damn shot, saying the same thing over again.

It's just...dumb. Redundant, for sure, but it also just makes me think about the director's (poor) choices and not the story.

Guys, please read my previous post above yours. Let’s just altogether cool it on discussing whether someone is overweight or not on the show. For crying out loud, this is some fantasy universe where in an instant they teleport to far-away places, create matter out of thin air like magic and where people from multiple alien worlds all across the galaxy can interbreed — I can’t express how little sense it makes to complain about characters supposedly not looking “fit” enough. And to whose standards exactly? Certainly not to those of a fictional organization in the far-away future. The only reason people would complain about this is because they don’t want to see people that are not traditionally slim on television. And that, again, is blatantly fatphobic bias. Which, again, is not welcome here.

Reminds me of the discussion when DIS chose to include trans people.

There's an argument that in the far future, where gender-affirming options are so much better, trans people would all be unclockable, and thus casting clockable trans people is anachronistic. But this completely misses the point of Trek is not to display the most plausible depiction of the future, but to be a TV show for present audiences.

 

[ichab]

Watching the clip again I will admit that it at least got me interested in the show which the teaser did not. I like Holly Hunter as Captain and the Doctor was one of the few characters I liked on Voyager. I will certainly give it a chance as I have for all Trek shows. But I'm still disappointed that we got this instead of Legacy.

 

[Turtletrekker]

^ We were never going to get Legacy. It was never actually a thing. And I can't actually even see the appeal in the project. I would much rather have Academy or United than Legacy.

 

[Mudd]

ChatGPT can be prompted to write adequate dialogue for a Star Trek space combat scene.

[Red alert klaxons echo through the bridge. The Athena shudders under incoming fire.]

Captain Rena Hale:
Report!

First Officer Commander Jalen Vos:
Three enemy vessels decloaking off the port bow. Shields at sixty-two percent and dropping.

Security Chief Lt. Mara T’Lor:
They’re targeting our impulse manifolds. I’m routing additional power to the dorsal emitters.

Captain Hale:
Helm, evasive pattern Delta-Nine. Commander Vos, options?

Commander Vos:
We can outmaneuver them, but not for long. Their weapons are cycling faster than expected. Recommend we disable the lead ship before they coordinate a spread.

Lt. T’Lor:
Captain, I’ve isolated a power spike in their forward batteries—looks unstable. A well-placed phaser burst could force them to divert power.

Captain Hale:
Do it. Target that spike and fire when ready.

T’Lor:
Aye, firing!

[A brilliant lance of phaser light cuts across the viewscreen. One enemy ship veers off, its weapons flickering.]

Commander Vos:
Good hit. The lead vessel’s weapons are offline for the moment.

Captain Hale:
Let’s not waste it. Lock torpedoes on the second ship’s propulsion array.

T’Lor:
Torpedoes locked.

Captain Hale:
Fire.

[Two torpedoes streak out, slamming into the enemy vessel. It spirals away, trailing plasma.]

Commander Vos:
Captain, the remaining ship is charging something—energy spike unlike any of their previous signatures.

T’Lor:
It’s a breach attempt. They’re trying to transport directly through our shields.

Captain Hale:
Not today. T’Lor, countermeasures!

T’Lor:
Engaging scrambler field… now.

[A pulse ripples through the Athena’s hull.]

T’Lor:
Transport breach blocked. Their system overloaded—they’re exposed.

 

[Tuskin38]

But I'm still disappointed that we got this instead of Legacy.

Legacy was never a thing, it was a dream.

That red scaled Alien, could be the same species as Colt in Discovery's Season 2 finale?

 

[Tuskin38]

ChatGPT can be prompted to write adequate dialogue for a Star Trek space combat scene.

Yeah because it just steals from other Star Trek combat scenes that it scraped off the internet.

 

[Fateor]

^ We were never going to get Legacy. It was never actually a thing. And I can't actually even see the appeal in the project. I would much rather have Academy or United than Legacy.

Legacy has a lot more general appeal then Academy because Academy takes place in Discovery's future that comparatively few people actually care about.

The only reason we're getting Academy instead of Legacy is that the big person in charge wanted to do Academy.

 

[ToddCam]

That's not an entire generation. Enterprise was one ship full of cadets. SFA is apparently establishing that the entire Academy student body is traveling on one ship.

 

[Christmas Canon Spock]

That's not an entire generation. Enterprise was one ship full of cadets. SFA is apparently establishing that the entire Academy student body is traveling on one ship.

Is it?

 

[Turtletrekker]

Legacy has a lot more general appeal then Academy because Academy takes place in Discovery's future that comparatively few people actually care about.

The only reason we're getting Academy instead of Legacy is that the big person in charge wanted to do Academy.

Uh-huh.

 

[Tuskin38]

That's not an entire generation. Enterprise was one ship full of cadets. SFA is apparently establishing that the entire Academy student body is traveling on one ship.

And where did you get that idea?

 

[Tuskin38]

The only reason we're getting Academy instead of Legacy is that the big person in charge wanted to do Academy.

Academy was approved before Legacy was even an idea.

 

[Mudd]

Yeah because it just steals from other Star Trek combat scenes that it scraped off the internet.

• That's not what it does;
• What do you call this when Trek writers produce the same thing?

The only reason we're getting Academy instead of Legacy is that the big person in charge wanted to do Academy.

Also because Legacy was never actually a real proposal.

 

[Fateor]

That's not an entire generation. Enterprise was one ship full of cadets. SFA is apparently establishing that the entire Academy student body is traveling on one ship.

It's also not someone building their entire ship out of matter purposefully designed to be controlled by an outside force.

On an unrelated note, how long does everyone think it will be before the Academy writers remember transporter pattern scramblers are a thing?

 

[ichab]

Legacy has a lot more general appeal then Academy because Academy takes place in Discovery's future that comparatively few people actually care about.

The only reason we're getting Academy instead of Legacy is that the big person in charge wanted to do Academy.

Pretty much. I don't recall any petitioning for an Academy series like I did with Strange New Worlds and Legacy. People very much wanted to see an Enterprise with Seven in the captain's chair. They were not clamoring for a show about cadets. That's why the response to the show's previews have been very lukewarm.

 

[Tuskin38]

That's not what it does;

That's exactly what it does.

People very much wanted to see an Enterprise with Seven in the captain's chair.

a small minority of people.

 

[Santa Kang]

People very much wanted to see an Enterprise with Seven in the captain's chair.

I'm people, and I don't
Now Seven in the captain's chair of La Sirena on the other hand...