Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Kamen Rider Blade]

NBA isn't what it use to be. All they do now is shoot 3's and don't play defense.

Imagine if they finally decide to add in the 4-Point Line.

I know the NBA has been mulling about adding in a 4-Point Line On/Off over the past 2 decades.

But given the prevalence of 3-Pointers, I wouldn't be surprised if they follow through and add-in the 30' 4-Point line.

 

[Dar70]

Good.

Maybe people will go outside and be creative again.

Why can't we do both???

 

[Dar70]

Only reason SNW and other shows have taken so long recently was because of the strikes.

If they hadn't happened, we'd probably would have watched Season 3 last year and would be watching Season 4 right now.

Maybe. For example Stranger things. It's been over three years now. They cite Covid, writers strike etc. Yet they went and split the last season up in two parts. Why?? This is another practice I have disliked that started about 10 years ago or so. Sopranos, Breaking bad etc. Started to split a season of 15 episodes up. Which sucks. I ain't got time for that crap. I have important stuff to not get done.

 

[Campe]

Maybe. For example Stranger things. It's been over three years now. They cite Covid, writers strike etc. Yet they went and split the last season up in two parts. Why?? This is another practice I have disliked that started about 10 years ago or so. Sopranos, Breaking bad etc. Started to split a season of 15 episodes up. Which sucks. I ain't got time for that crap. I have important stuff to not get done.

Because at the end of the day, entertainment is a business. They want to keep you hooked. People cancel their subscriptions all the time when their shows take breaks. If they break a season into multiple parts, they can more revenue. I don’t like it either but I do understand it.

And just FYI, not sure exactly when the trend started but Sopranos final season was in 2006/2007. Almost 20 years ago.

 

[Yistaan]

Because at the end of the day, entertainment is a business. They want to keep you hooked.

This may be the reason for Spock's string of romances, since that sort of thing sells. It just occurred to me that if Pelia were played by a younger Carol Kane from her acting heyday (circa the 80s), Spock would be bedding her too.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Because at the end of the day, entertainment is a business. They want to keep you hooked. People cancel their subscriptions all the time when their shows take breaks. If they break a season into multiple parts, they can more revenue. I don’t like it either but I do understand it.

Or they should do what the Japanese do for their Broadcast schedules every season (13/26 weeks), have new shows ready to go in the pipeline.

So there is less chance that somebody will cancel.

Also, don't do reruns, just have new shows on constantly at a consistent pace.

 

[Campe]

Or they should do what the Japanese do for their Broadcast schedules every season (13/26 weeks), have new shows ready to go in the pipeline.

So there is less chance that somebody will cancel.

Also, don't do reruns, just have new shows on constantly at a consistent pace.

That's kind of what the streaming model is. There's constantly something new.

I admit though, it can be a bit much some days.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

That's kind of what the streaming model is. There's constantly something new.

I admit though, it can be a bit much some days.

Yeah, but the Japanese have been doing this for Broadcast TV since the beginning.

It wasn't a new thing, they've been doing this for 50+ years.

Some shows are hits, others aren't, some do okay.

They're fine with letting the cards play out and see which shows are success and which are failures.

They haven't changed their model.

The American Entertainment System got greedy and tried to jump in on the Netflix Streaming Model and it's BURNED them really badly.

 

[Campe]

Yeah, but the Japanese have been doing this for Broadcast TV since the beginning.

It wasn't a new thing, they've been doing this for 50+ years.

Some shows are hits, others aren't, some do okay.

They're fine with letting the cards play out and see which shows are success and which are failures.

They haven't changed their model.

The American Entertainment System got greedy and tried to jump in on the Netflix Streaming Model and it's BURNED them really badly.

Don't disagree with the burning. But I think its largely too late for changing the broadcast model. Both broadcast and cable viewership numbers are way down. Link
Some sources are even reporting that viewership on broadcast dipped below 20% for the first time. If that trend continues, there will be no U.S. broadcast TV in a decade. Link

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Don't disagree with the burning. But I think its largely too late for changing the broadcast model. Both broadcast and cable viewership numbers are way down. Link

Cable got "Greedy" with their bundling of TV Channels instead of going for a pure "A La Carte" model which they REFUSE and lobbied against.

For years, everybody was trying to get them to change, so people would at least stay with Cable and pick the channels they wanted.

But NOOOO, they must have their bundles so their friends on this ___ Network Channel can leach off the more successful channels and survive.

Now that Streaming, Internet, YouTube, Social Media are available, it's too late to change now.

They had a chance, then people got fed up with their constantly increasing prices.

Some sources are even reporting that viewership on broadcast dipped below 20% for the first time. If that trend continues, there will be no U.S. broadcast TV in a decade. Link

I know they are, but at least BroadCast TV still has a better chance than Cable.

They can still find ways to promote people to accept modernized Bunny Years with modern Digital receivers to watch OTA (Over The Air) HD Signals.

Those are "Buy Once", enjoy TV for as long as you own the box.

You can't say the same about Paid for Cable TV subscriptions where you are forced into bundles with channels you don't want, and they intend to up charge you to channel packages for channels you do want to watch.

 

[Campe]

I gave up on cable in 2012.
I gave up on broadcast in 2023.
Its not perfect but I'm fine with the streaming model. My HBO Max is bundled with my cell phone bill. My Prime Video is bundled with my Amazon Prime subscription. I pay annual subscriptions for Disney+ and Paramount+. My AppleTV+ is bundled with my AppleOne (which is a monthly subscription, but we get a lot out of it.) And we pay for Netflix monthly. Its really not that bad. I miss live sports on occasion but no big deal.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I gave up on cable in 2012.
I gave up on broadcast in 2023.
Its not perfect but I'm fine with the streaming model. My HBO Max is bundled with my cell phone bill. My Prime Video is bundled with my Amazon Prime subscription. I pay annual subscriptions for Disney+ and Paramount+. My AppleTV+ is bundled with my AppleOne (which is a monthly subscription, but we get a lot out of it.) And we pay for Netflix monthly. Its really not that bad. I miss live sports on occasion but no big deal.

Wow, that's A LOT of streaming services to be subscribed to.

Add up, it's almost like the old Cable Bill subscriptions again.

 

[ClayinCA]

if Pelia were played by a younger Carol Kane from her acting heyday (circa the 80s), Spock would be bedding her too.

Hey, the show's not over yet—give him time!

 

[Campe]

Wow, that's A LOT of streaming services to be subscribed to.

Add up, it's almost like the old Cable Bill subscriptions again.

Not really.

Prime is through my Amazon Prime subscription which we more than make up with for my family’s buying things through Amazon with free shipping (and honestly we don’t use the Prime video service that much).

Apple One includes a lot of other services including Apple News, Apple Arcade, Apple Music which I use all the time and all of my family’s cloud storage.

As I said my wife and I have an old plan with AT&T and get HBO Max through it (I also have a discount for working in healthcare, we have a multi-line discount along with bundling with internet, my wife gets reimbursed for her cell phone and I get reimbursed for part of my internet since I work remotely). Basically get HBO Max for free there. Plus some.

I have two annual subscriptions which I pay $120 a year for Paramount+ with Showtime (honestly we could probably drop Showtime) and $160 a year for Disney+ . We pay those at different times of year to spread out the cost.

The only streamer we pay solely for monthly is Netflix (which after Stranger Things ends I would be happy to get rid of but my wife and kids watch a lot of things on it) and that’s $18.

I count Prime and HBO Max as basically being free and will go with the sticker price of $10 for Apple TV+ and adding the rest of them up comes out to $51/month. For basic, basic, BASIC cable through AT&T, it’s $70/month. With kids, we’d likely be paying more than that.

I can’t say it will work this way forever, but my family is still coming out on top here. At the end of the day though, we try to play it smart.

 

[Noname Given]

This is very interesting:

‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Season 3 Debuts With Stronger Streaming Numbers Than Season 2

The first two episodes performed well on Nielsen Top 10.

trekmovie.com

 

[DaveyNY]

I gave up on cable in 2012.
I gave up on broadcast in 2023.
Its not perfect but I'm fine with the streaming model. My HBO Max is bundled with my cell phone bill. My Prime Video is bundled with my Amazon Prime subscription. I pay annual subscriptions for Disney+ and Paramount+. My AppleTV+ is bundled with my AppleOne (which is a monthly subscription, but we get a lot out of it.) And we pay for Netflix monthly. Its really not that bad. I miss live sports on occasion but no big deal.

I got rid of Cable back in 2001 after They cancelled ENTERPRISE, and never went back.

Had Netflix from the time of DVD's (1997) till They bumped the streaming price up over $10/month.
Tried Disney+ till that also became too pricey for my budget.
I've done P+ a few times just to see Trek shows, but I cancel as soon as there's no new stuff showing.

I have had PRIME for many years now, but I get it half off due to my SNAP availability.
The Internet & PC gaming have been my main mode of entertainment since the early 2000's.

 

[Michael]

Anyone know if they still release the soundtracks for each season? The season three score has been absolutely fantastic so far with more and more flourishes from the original series music being worked into the episodes. I would love to listen back to it all by itself at some point, but it seems like they didn’t even release the music for season two, as far as I can tell. (Not counting the wonderful release for “Subspace Rhapsody” here.)

Is it just me or does it seem like the composer made a conscious decision this season to sound more 60s-ish in some moment? I feel like there have been moments like these in almost every episode so far.

 

[V'Lias]

Anyone know if they still release the soundtracks for each season? The season three score has been absolutely fantastic so far with more and more flourishes from the original series music being worked into the episodes. I would love to listen back to it all by itself at some point, but it seems like they didn’t even release the music for season two, as far as I can tell. (Not counting the wonderful release for “Subspace Rhapsody” here.)

Is it just me or does it seem like the composer made a conscious decision this season to sound more 60s-ish in some moment? I feel like there have been moments like these in almost every episode so far.

I haven't seen anything mentioned about the season 2 soundtrack other than Subspace Rhapsody. It's kind of sad, because I like to pick up that kind of thing if available. For this season, I really want to know what song Spock is originally dancing to in A Space Adventure Hour. I'm guessing it might just be stock music or something, but if they released a full version I would listen to it!

And yes, I'm really hearing TOS style musical cues this season! I can't remember all the places I've heard them, but during the first phaser battle with the Klingons in episode 3 really stood out as being TOS. They used elements of the old fight music in another episode too, which made me laugh.

 

[Michael]

I haven't seen anything mentioned about the season 2 soundtrack other than Subspace Rhapsody. It's kind of sad, because I like to pick up that kind of thing if available. For this season, I really want to know what song Spock is originally dancing to in A Space Adventure Hour. I'm guessing it might just be stock music or something, but if they released a full version I would listen to it!

And yes, I'm really hearing TOS style musical cues this season! I can't remember all the places I've heard them, but during the first phaser battle with the Klingons in episode 3 really stood out as being TOS. They used elements of the old fight music in another episode too, which made me laugh.

Yes! I noticed those cues in “Shuttle To Kenfori” as well, but there’s also lots of this in “Wedding Bell Blues”, especially in that early scene where Spock welcomes Chapel and Korby in the transporter room. I think they strike just the right balance of making you think of the original series but also at the same time they don’t stand out like they don’t belong. Nami Melumad, who’s scored all episodes this season, is doing an excellent job. I hope they’ll acknowledge her work at some point and release those season soundtracks after all.

The Latin music Spock and La’an are dancing to is “Hacker De Tu Piel“ by Lavanda Son, according to the subtitles. And listening back to it on YouTube it even sounds like it’s the exact recording being used in the episode …

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[Michael]

Dang, just realized you were asking about the dance music from “A Space Adventure Hour”, not “Wedding Bell Blues”. I just checked and in this instance the subtitles don’t give any clue what the title of that track is. This could very well be something specifically composed for the show, or, as you mentioned, some kind of stock music.