Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x06 - "The Sehlat Who Ate Its Tail"

[thribs]

Or 200 years of repairing, scavenging, needing new suits


A generational ship with that much time passed can't have 7k? The XCV-100 was probably smaller than the 330, so they started with not that many people, but then loved each other very much for 200 years

They made it sound like it took off with 7000 people

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Pretty much anything of importance has already been said.
i enjoyed the episode. My first 10 of the season.

on why I think the Scavengers turned, one can only speculate.
But I imagine similar situations to what Archer faced in "Damage" where he feels forced to pirate/scavenge parts of an alien ship in distress.
I can see the original ship getting into disarray afer a few decades, them running into an alien ship or colony and deciding to put their survival over the question "should we?". But unlike Archer... never stopped until scavenging just became normal.

 

[JohnCrichton1999]

Helluva great episode, but some things I do question, however that's irrelevant. I'm not giving it an absoute 10, but definitely a 9.5 if it were an option. Also, I would totally be hanging in Pelia's quarters as many times as I could be permitted. I'd bet she got a working tv there that can work with that Atari of hers. And the reveal at the end reminded me a mix of "Where No Man Has Gone Before" with the SS Valiant's doomed mission and TNG's "The Royale". Surprised they used the XCV Enterprise model for this episode, but I missed out whether or not it had an actual name, or just XCV-103(?). Would love to see the full model of it as seen from the episode some time. But also, could this be an early hint at an idea of what they want to do for a pre Enterprise series or movie? I am intrigued and would be interesting to see if they would go the XCV Enterprise route and make it the first manned mission pre warp into space that was doomed from the start. I want more background story to that ship and its crew. Anyways. Rant over.

 

[JohnCrichton1999]

Not sure how to edit here yet but had a random thought: What if Pelia was that "really groovy chick" that Maury Ginsburg was wondering about after Quinn gave him a ride to Woodstock? After all, she DID just say she was a Grateful Dead groupie in this episode, and now that Q is connected, could she just be her? The groovy girl Maury got with?

Maury Ginsberg's Memory Alpha profile.

 

[Finn]

I enjoyed this one.

I suspect the crew that launched from Earth encountered something that created what we saw in this episode.. I don't think they are actually the "monster" the Gorn and Klingons fear. I think what they fear was what those Humans encountered. There's still something out there...that may be responsible for the ship the Farragut and the Enterprise saw in this episode.

 

[Jayson1]

Well we still have have the comedy Vulcan episode but I hope the other three are serious much like this episode.

 

[Jayson1]

Helluva great episode, but some things I do question, however that's irrelevant. I'm not giving it an absoute 10, but definitely a 9.5 if it were an option. Also, I would totally be hanging in Pelia's quarters as many times as I could be permitted. I'd bet she got a working tv there that can work with that Atari of hers. And the reveal at the end reminded me a mix of "Where No Man Has Gone Before" with the SS Valiant's doomed mission and TNG's "The Royale". Surprised they used the XCV Enterprise model for this episode, but I missed out whether or not it had an actual name, or just XCV-103(?). Would love to see the full model of it as seen from the episode some time. But also, could this be an early hint at an idea of what they want to do for a pre Enterprise series or movie? I am intrigued and would be interesting to see if they would go the XCV Enterprise route and make it the first manned mission pre warp into space that was doomed from the start. I want more background story to that ship and its crew. Anyways. Rant over.

Pike has a tv but I am not sure if be brought it with him when he returned to the Enterprise in season 1.

 

[Quinton]

That was really damn good. Script was a bit wooden in places, but otherwise, a very strong outing.

I’m glad to have a kickass Star Trek episode air on my birthday. I think this is the first time that’s happened!

 

[Jayson1]

That was really damn good. Script was a bit wooden in places, but otherwise, a very strong outing.

I’m glad to have a kickass Star Trek episode air on my birthday. I think this is the first time that’s happened!

Happy Birthday!

 

[Dar70]

As much as this show has been stinking lately. This is the best episode of the season thus far and maybe the entire show. There were a couple things I didn't like. But overall not bad. This is what Trek should be. It should not be about musicals, cartoons or puppets.

Make no mistake I still don't like all the retcons. But I still enjoyed the story. Have a good morning...

 

[IMC Headquarters]

Great pity we didn't see the Scavenger ship rebuilding itself.

 

[Tosk]

*Sigh*



A sigh of relief, to be clear. I liked this one. Thank goodness.

 

[Quinton]

Happy Birthday!

Thank you!

 

[Romulan_spy]

Very good episode!

For me, the plot twist that the scavengers were humans and also the big talk between Pike and Kirk really elevated the episode a lot for me. It took what could have been just another "ship in peril" episode that we've seen before and gave it an interesting "Star Trek" message. The talk between Pike and Kirk was especially well done. It had heart and gravitas. And it explored some of the things that Kirk was struggling with internally. We also got Pike in a great mentor role to Kirk.

 

[Quinton]

Very good episode!

For me, the plot twist that the scavengers were humans and also the big talk between Pike and Kirk really elevated the episode a lot for me. It took what could have been just another "ship in peril" episode that we've seen before and gave it an interesting "Star Trek" message. The talk between Pike and Kirk was especially well done. It had heart and gravitas. And it explored some of the things that Kirk was struggling with internally. We also got Pike in a great mentor role to Kirk.

It's interesting because when they were saying even the Gorn thought of the scavengers as monsters, I was thinking to myself, "What is it with this season, anyway? Just last week, we had the pseudo-Pah-wraiths, and now this?" It wouldn't have nuked my enjoyment of this episode, but it was still gnawing at me. Like, is this the season of monsters right now?

I suppose the scavengers being human doesn't change that. If anything, that accentuates it all. But. Importantly. It contextualizes them, and lends gravitas, in a savvy way. It separates them from the other "monstrous" entities that the U.S.S. Enterprise has been encountering lately. That's good.

 

[KennyB]

2 solid episodes IN A ROW!

 

[Dar70]

They didn’t even bother making the Farragut bridge look different.

There were subtle differences. They changed the color of the displays for example. This is what ever star Trek show has ever done. A bit of redressing here and there. Since it's a Starfleet vessel it's ok.

 

[Lone Iguana]

Making them humans seemed like a sympathetic leap but I'm not sure how earned it was.

The reveal didn't really land for me either--I mean, "we're not that different from the creatures we think of as monsters" is not exactly a shocking twist on a Star Trek episode--but I thought Paul Wesley did a good job of selling the idea that this threw Kirk's view of the universe into doubt at a crucial moment in his development as a man and a captain. It made sense as a character moment for me more than a message moment.

 

[Quinton]

The reveal didn't really land for me either--I mean, "we're not that different from the creatures we think of as monsters" is not exactly a shocking twist on a Star Trek episode--but I thought Paul Wesley did a good job of selling the idea that this threw Kirk's view of the universe into doubt at a crucial moment in his development as a man and a captain. It made sense as a character moment for me more than a message moment.

Well said, yeah. Without the character-centric lens, I'm not sure it would have worked nearly so well. It was used primarily to faciliate growth and introspection for Kirk, and that worked well.

Jess Bush's pre-episode comment about this one making her cry makes plenty of sense now!

 

[Trekker4747]

I don't think the "they were human" aspect was needed.

Though, it makes me think of the Reavers from the pilot episode of Firefly. Men who went mad on the edge of space.