Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x05 - "Through the Lens of Time"
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But enough about TWOK.
I do love me some Nicholas Meyer Trek. But I could see how TWOK might irk a TOS purist. Having started out as a kid on TNG without really knowing anything about TOS, I saw the movies sitting on the VHS rental shelf. Going from TMP to TWOK was pretty jarring to say the least.
I don't remember them moving the eugenics wars out of the 1990's.....????
Then why did his eyes regenerate in Insurrection?
It's stated as a 21st century conflict in TNG.
Which episode?? I shall review it ...
Metaphasic particles aka Space Magic.
Encounter at Farpoint. It was also the first to allude this war as an atomic exchange.
8/10. A step up from the previous episode, but the Vezda are coming off too similar to malevolent beings like the Pah-Wraiths, Gorgon, Redjack, Armus and "God". I don't see why they're so much more worse than those guys. I did like the alien structure and the solution for getting out, even if the execution was a bit messy. More exploration of planets please, new Trek is like 60% bottle show by volume.
Not sure if you read the other replies in this thread (it is becoming quite long) but there are indications, that Redjack and the Pah-wraith and the wormhole aliens might be Vezda, and that there is a relationship to proto Qs.
Laddy dont you think you should...rephrase that.
To be clear, TOS stated explicitly that The Eugenics War and WWIII were the same conflict. TNG said explicitly that "post atomic horror" court scene happened in 2079. When did WWIII get mentioned specifically as the atomic conflict, was it First Contact?
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Yeah, I didn't get to read most of them, but I could see that being the case.
I'll have to look at my Star Trek Encyclopedia as Memory Alpha has newer stuff too.
Pedantic point: Neither the terms "World War Three" or "Eugenics Wars" are used in "Encounter at Farpoint." The term "Post-Atomic Horror" is used to refer to the period which Q's court of the year 2079 invokes, and that the New United Nations had ruled in the year 2036 that no person could be held to account for the crime of his race or forebears.
In October 1987, one could still convincingly argue that the Eugenics Wars still occurred in between the years 1992-1996 and that, instead, the New United Nations was formed in response to the "genocidal conflict" Colonel Green led "early in the 21st century" per "The Savage Curtain," which was never explicitly said to be either World War Three or the Eugenics Wars. As far as the Okudachron was concerned during TNG's production and afterward, the Eugenics Wars (which implies more than one Eugenics War) and World War Three were separate conflicts, separated by decades, retconning "Space Seed" that made the EW the last of Earth's World Wars, which was itself arguably retconned by Colonel Green's "genocidal conflict in the early 21st century" in "The Savage Curtain." The post-"First Contact" version of the Okudachron put World War Three in the 2050's.
Future retcons have since made making sense of the Star Trek version of the 21st century very complicated. SNW has tried to put the genie back into the bottle and resimplify things by saying that our age is a time of constant longlasting conflict and cultural upheavals that will become known by many names including the Eugenics Wars and World War Three and the specific years don't really matter.
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Thanks for the clarification. The treatment of the Eugenics Wars and World War 3 as two separate conflicts by the later productions is annoying, much less the cavalcade of random events in the 21st century.
I used to be a continuity and chronology obsessive back in the day. These days, I prefer a "comic book history" approach to things like this: keep "future history" before the setting of your show vague with regard to specific dating and be sure to leave yourself significant wiggle-room to adjust if needed.
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