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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x04 - "A Space Adventure Hour"

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I was wondering after the trailer if Star Trek existed in Star Trek if people could sing the Star Trek theme... and I guess so.

As for the episode itself, it was... okay I guess. I don't know if Chong made a choice to play the detective as La'an rather than try to camp it up like Stewart or Spiner in their holodeck episodes, but it made it seem awkward when they tried to make it like a noir... especially with the narration. Her time travel episode last season was better anyway.

As for the new ship, it never occurred to me until now that her ancestor basically tries to kill Kirk and succeeds in killing Spock and she's basically been paired with both of them. Just an odd coincidence I suppose.
 
Wow. Uh, yeah. So that was a thing that happened.

While there was some fun to be had in this episode, particularly the "blooper" reel at the end and the cast mugging as the holodeck characters, this was pretty easily the single worst episode of this series to date.

I don't want to say it was terrible. It wasn't. But if was incredibly mid, in a series that hasn't been.

Also, please keep La'an away from McCoy. First Kirk, now Spock, she's shagging her way through the original TOS cast and it does her character such a huge disservice. This not only came out of nowhere, it makes no sense.

And finally, I agree with Pike. Can we please bury the holodeck in a hole and leave it there to die? Never again. Just... never again.
 
La'an based the holodeck program on a series of books from the 1960's that she read.

The whole thing was created from her mind with the contraption Scotty had her wear on her neck.

That it felt off or wrong is basically because it's what she imagined a film noir to be, not how one usually is.

The fact that she also told the computer to make it somewhat impossible to solve, also threw a wrench in the mix.
 
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Not just that. To me, it's highly annoying that Spock is being used as SNW's romantic hub to the extent that I cringe every time I see him doing moon eyes at someone... ANYONE. Obviously, they're trying to somehow beef up the character's hitherto latent love life by making it overt, but the writing is so below par as to make this a soap opera. Is he going to go through every skirt on the bridge (and elsewhere) by the time this thing ends?!
Some of them wear pants.
 
La'an based the holodeck program on a series of books from the 1960's that she read.

The whole thing was created from her mind with the contraption Scotty had her wear on her neck.

That it felt off or wrong is basically because it's what she imagined a film noir it to be, not how one usually is.

The fact that she also told the computer to make it somewhat impossible to solve, also threw a wrench in the mix.

The irony is that this is actually how AI generated story slop works.

It's like asking ChatGPT to write a story in the style of CT Phipps (they stole my work for it so it can--me and about 50,000 other authors). It has superficial similarities but goes WILDLY off course.
 
Wow. Uh, yeah. So that was a thing that happened.

While there was some fun to be had in this episode, particularly the "blooper" reel at the end and the cast mugging as the holodeck characters, this was pretty easily the single worst episode of this series to date.

I don't want to say it was terrible. It wasn't. But if was incredibly mid, in a series that hasn't been.

Also, please keep La'an away from McCoy. First Kirk, now Spock, she's shagging her way through the original TOS cast and it does her character such a huge disservice. This not only came out of nowhere, it makes no sense.

And finally, I agree with Pike. Can we please bury the holodeck in a hole and leave it there to die? Never again. Just... never again.
She hasn't shagged anyone to my knowledge. Her and AU Kirk didn't (except maybe in her Subspace Rhapsody fantasy). So that's a weird, shitty, and sexist observation from someone claiming concern about the disservice all TWO relationships does to her character.
 
Mostly boring episode and the whole "defeat Data" thing turning out to be the computer showing La'an she is in love really ruined any good I was getting from the holodeck shenanigans.

The blooper scene was top notch though. Got audible laughs from me which is rare.
 
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What a terrible episode. It took a shit all over The Original Series while also having a Holodeck episode that somehow managed to be worse than ds9's James Bond parody, although to be fair still better than Voyagers Irish stereotypes or Jane Austen holodeck stuff. But by the end I still would rather watch even episodes like the big goodbye or A Fistful of datas, which weren't great but are still somehow less obnoxious and better written.

What an absolutely miserable experience. 1/10, probably a top three worst strange new worlds episode along with the Freaky Friday and Spock becomes a full Human episodes

FINALLY someone who agrees with me that the worst SNW episodes so far (at this point, sadly, one has to add "so far" to such superlatives) were "Spock Amok" and "Charades". Somehow the overused and over-the-top comedy hurts worst when they put Spock at the center of it. It's in these moments that the role is slipping away from Ethan Peck. In dramatic scenes, I buy him 100% as the character, in the comedy, it becomes a completely different character.

Having said that: you've never read Jane Austen right? Janeway' holonovel was gothic fiction, i.e. including some mystery and (admittedly slight) suspense. Austen was the one with the inane courtship stories where some girl inevitably dies at the end because she went for a stroll in the rain.
 
They have seemingly done a LOT more silliness, instead. Do we really have room for this, Trelane, AND puppets?
I dunno, there's not one if those I'd knock out in favor of more about Augments, Khan, more Gorn, Pike's fate or certainly goddamn Sybok. And they'll get around to more time travel as certainly as rocks fall to Earth.
 
One aspect of this that I think people are missing is the scenario was based upon a series of mystery books La'an read as a child.

Mystery is, by nature, a pretty formulaic genre (similar to romance), and not a "style" genre like SF or fantasy. And if she was also reading mysteries which were meant to appeal to young readers, I wouldn't expect too deep of a story.
 
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