Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Nerys Myk]

Scotty has all his fingers.

 

[Uhura's Song]

I think Season 2 was a slight disappointment to some because Season 1 was pretty unexpectedly (for a Trek series) solid out the gate, and you'd need to squint to see improvement. Plus there were more "gimmick episodes" (Charades, Those Old Scientists, Subspace Rhapsody) which stand out in these modern short seasons more than they would have in DS9 or something. Add to this people who wanted Moretegas were really let down as well.

YMMV, but I also really didn't like the random season 2 retcon that M'Benga was a traumatized war veteran. It was pretty transparently an effort to give his character something after resolving his season 1 arc around his daughter.

In general, SNW seems like a show that's continually aiming for B+ when it doesn't shoot for the moon with wacky high concept stuff. That's great - it's better than most modern Trek - but I don't get the idea we're going to get an all-time classic out of the show at this rate.

Fair. But I think there have already been a couple. Maybe more than a couple.

I have no idea what a gimmick episode means. Time travel? Comedy? Alternate universe? Singing? Courtroom? Body swap? Crossover? Strang alien altering reality?

Except for the full out musical, nothing there is new to Trek.

What is Mortegas?

I think SNW has done comedy ("Spock Amok" and "Charades" and "Those Old Scientists") really well.

They have done romance fairly well (Pike/Batel & Spock/T'Pring & Chapel/Spock). It has done action/horror well. War well.

The darker stuff does not bother me, at all. Though "Under the Cloak of War" bugged me because of the ending, I still love "Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach," "Momento Mori," "All Those Who Wander," and Hegemony."

I'd put "Spock Amok," "Charades," and "Those Old Scientists" right up there with Tribbles, "A Piece of the Action" & "Shore Leave."


Half of the top half of Trek for me is new (SNW, LD, PRO joining TOS, TNG, DS9). DISCO & PIC are with VOY, ENT, & TAS.

 

[Nerys Myk]

What is Mortegas?

More Ortegas.

 

[DaveyNY]

What is Mortegas?

Heh ... A typo that flies the ship.

 

[cooleddie74]

Captain Peak approves.

 

[Firebird]

TNG S3 still had some good music. Yesterday's Enterprise and Tin Man are especially notable for their music, and of course TBOBW1 is probably the best incidental music in TNG, period. S4 is when the music became the auditory wallpaper that TNG is now remembered for.

Season 4 coincides with Ron Jones being fired, who always tried to push the boundaries of what he could achieve in a 22-minute episode score, so that tracks.

 

[Jayson1]

For now!

More Ortegas.

What happens when Morn and Ortegas are mixed together in a Tuvix style transporter accident.

 

[cooleddie74]

Morntegas. He's the pilot, but you never hear him talk about it.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The two characters merge to form someone who we always see sitting in their chair, but never really does anything. Though we get lots of hints that they've been up to all kinds of stuff when we weren't looking.

 

[cooleddie74]

Also, Morntegas has liquid latinum in their stomach and for no explainable reason.

 

[Phoenix219]

I think Season 2 was a slight disappointment to some because Season 1 was pretty unexpectedly (for a Trek series) solid out the gate, and you'd need to squint to see improvement. Plus there were more "gimmick episodes" (Charades, Those Old Scientists, Subspace Rhapsody) which stand out in these modern short seasons more than they would have in DS9 or something. Add to this people who wanted Moretegas were really let down as well.

YMMV, but I also really didn't like the random season 2 retcon that M'Benga was a traumatized war veteran. It was pretty transparently an effort to give his character something after resolving his season 1 arc around his daughter.

In general, SNW seems like a show that's continually aiming for B+ when it doesn't shoot for the moon with wacky high concept stuff. That's great - it's better than most modern Trek - but I don't get the idea we're going to get an all-time classic out of the show at this rate.

Concur 100% - these are all of the things that soured me on the show last year, and made me feel like after a solid first season, it is going steadily downhill.

 

[DaveyNY]

YMMV, but I also really didn't like the random season 2 retcon that M'Benga was a traumatized war veteran.

How can that be considered a "retcon", when all we know about the character from TOS is that he did some medical training on Vulcan and season one only gave us the problem with his daughter?

Since when does 'retcon by omission' mean anything?

 

[Jayson1]

The two characters merge to form someone who we always see sitting in their chair, but never really does anything. Though we get lots of hints that they've been up to all kinds of stuff when we weren't looking.

But enough about Mayweather. Let's talk some more about Morntegas.

 

[Michael]

Huh, for whatever reason the first two season three episodes are available right now on the European version of Paramount+ after all, despite their earlier press releases saying they would only show up two weeks later on August 4. It’s confusing, but I won’t complain. Will watch the new episodes later tonight.

 

[Tuskin38]

They were also up a few hours earlier than usual on Canadian Paramount+

 

[Turtletrekker]

Given hell notoriously glitchy Paramount Plus can be, maybe they're trying to alleviate strain on the system with a few early release

 

[137th Gebirg]

Or they could... I dunno... Take all that money they pull in from subscriptions and upgrade their dodgy servers and fix their even dodgier code.

 

[Tuskin38]

I haven’t had any issues with streaming paramount+

Maybe the Canadian servers are better

 

[Noname Given]

Given hell notoriously glitchy Paramount Plus can be, maybe they're trying to alleviate strain on the system with a few early release

Interestingly enough - I only saw the 'New Season' banner - but the new episodes were not appearing in the P+ app interface for me initially. I got to them by rewacthing Hegenomy Part I (which I had planned to do anyway) - then got the next episode to launch itself from the credits roll of Part I and then again from the credits roll of Part II.

They still weren't appearing as selectable from tnh P+ app interface after I was done watching SNW S3 Episode 2 (which was around 12:40 AM my time - but 'Season 3' and the two episodes finally appeared on the app as directly selecable when I woke up this morning.

I plan to watch Hegenomy Part II again today.

 

[fireproof78]

I haven’t had any issues with streaming paramount+

Maybe the Canadian servers are better

My wife uses Paramount Plus daily now with no issues. Now, we are closer to the Canadian border so maybe we benefit from Canadian servers...