The episode reminded me of the Enterprise Episode The Expanse. Both episodes had our heroes being persued by Klingons while they were on a mission into a strange part of the galaxy. Probably just a coincidence…
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 5x10 - "The New Next Generation"
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I am hoping that Paramount will pull a FUTURAMA, and bring back the series as needed.
Fanhome has been playing it safe compared to Eaglemoss.
Letting the demand exceed the initial production run instead of letting the initial production run exceed demand.
Only one alien ship in the first 20 issues because they know Federation ships sell better.
Not blindly sending replacements for models received with detached parts that the collector intends to re-glue on anyway.
I don’t see Fanhome making models of the Cerritos variants that appeared for just a few frames. Eaglemoss probably would have, though.
You know what I was wondering, how the heck were the 3x smaller Klingon Bird of Prey's missing that tiny Shuttle that Ma'ah & his brother were on when they were initially confronted by Relga.
Literally, 1 Disruptor Bolt hit that shuttle's shields compared to the 60 that was fired at them!
Yes, I went back and counted frame by frame.
Literally a 1/60 hit rate, at point blank range where the enemy shuttle were < 100 meters in distance most of the time while dodging around.
Then I realised as I went back to watching that battle scene again and analyzing the situation.
The Bird of Prey has a significant "Dead Zone" where the Plasma Bolts from their disruptors need to slowly travel to converge on the same point in space, like classic WW2 guns mounted on wing tips of old school fighters.
That dead zone for two pairs of guns usually converge at a distant point, given that they're usually expected to fight similar size or larger vessels, that distance should be in the hundreds to thousands of meters range.
When you're as close to the shuttle as they were, the plasma bolts would fly right around the shuttle, just as depicted if you're a decent pilot.
Part of the problem with the Klingon Bird of Prey design is their "Fixed Disruptor" mount design that hasn't changed in countless centuries.
Because they're fixed and only have a little bit of ability to "Yaw" their aim inwards, for the most part, the pilot needs to aim the ship instead of aiming the disruptor barrels at the target with computer aided targeting.
I swear, if they ever get a proper Human Weapons Engineer / Nerd to come in and fix up Klingon designs, they wouldn't be so weak as they are that they miss a simple shuttle at point blank range!
That was REALLY pathetic accuracy for members of the KDF to hit 1 out of 60 Disruptor shots at a "Un-Armed Civilian Shuttle".
What kind of training do you give them, but sadly, they're dealing with outdated weapons mounts & combat doctrines.
Literally, 1 Disruptor Bolt hit that shuttle's shields compared to the 60 that was fired at them!
Yes, I went back and counted frame by frame.
Literally a 1/60 hit rate, at point blank range where the enemy shuttle were < 100 meters in distance most of the time while dodging around.
Then I realised as I went back to watching that battle scene again and analyzing the situation.
The Bird of Prey has a significant "Dead Zone" where the Plasma Bolts from their disruptors need to slowly travel to converge on the same point in space, like classic WW2 guns mounted on wing tips of old school fighters.
That dead zone for two pairs of guns usually converge at a distant point, given that they're usually expected to fight similar size or larger vessels, that distance should be in the hundreds to thousands of meters range.
When you're as close to the shuttle as they were, the plasma bolts would fly right around the shuttle, just as depicted if you're a decent pilot.
Part of the problem with the Klingon Bird of Prey design is their "Fixed Disruptor" mount design that hasn't changed in countless centuries.
Because they're fixed and only have a little bit of ability to "Yaw" their aim inwards, for the most part, the pilot needs to aim the ship instead of aiming the disruptor barrels at the target with computer aided targeting.
I swear, if they ever get a proper Human Weapons Engineer / Nerd to come in and fix up Klingon designs, they wouldn't be so weak as they are that they miss a simple shuttle at point blank range!
That was REALLY pathetic accuracy for members of the KDF to hit 1 out of 60 Disruptor shots at a "Un-Armed Civilian Shuttle".
What kind of training do you give them, but sadly, they're dealing with outdated weapons mounts & combat doctrines.
I loved it. My only gripe with the finale was its shortness. The story felt like it was meant for a movie, or at least a much longer special.
I do also have some questions about Starfleet now being able to visit other realities willy-nilly, as it's not mentioned in any of the other series set after that time. I'm curious to see if "Prodigy" or any other series does anything with that.
I do also have some questions about Starfleet now being able to visit other realities willy-nilly, as it's not mentioned in any of the other series set after that time. I'm curious to see if "Prodigy" or any other series does anything with that.
I imagine that travel to other universes would come with very strict Prime Directive-like rules.
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It would probably be a good idea for the writers to include some technobabble reason why certain resources from other dimensions won't work in other ones, or put some other limits on multiverse travel. Otherwise death and stakes become pretty much meaningless.
Well, Great Bird willing, we will get some follow-up on this story down the line and I would imagine that concerns such as those would come up. However, I don't really think it was necessary to get into such details in the story being told in this episode.
I noticed that as well. Cerritos strong!
Not necessarily. Just because there are an infinite number of YOU, that not same as every last one is exactly like YOU (ie. the nurture versus nature versus personal choice trope). Also, as Daniels/Kovich (ENT/DISC) stated, prolonged exposure to a non-native timeline is hazardous to one's health. So this, besides a "dimension prime directive", will be the means of keeping those stakes "meaningful".
I thought this was a fitting end for the series. I liked all the callbacks to previous episodes this season. It was great to see the crew save the universe, and I'm glad the promotions happened at the end. I'm going to miss this show. It was unique and something very special. Five years is a good run though, and this series was a welcome addition to the Star Trek franchise.
I hope so, Mariner...
Nympho candle ghost guy is gonna be delighted when he finds himself in the middle of that room. The girts did seem very excited when the candle came on.
SB80 being old enough to not have technology linked to a problem is very similar to a certain starship in Picard S3.
I thought we got a fairly clear resolution to the red padd?
People are talking about why it’s not been mentioned in the 31st century.
For all we know their first trip through it ends up closing it. People are desperate to find “plot holes” that don’t exist.
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I don't have much to say. This and the previous episode would have benefited from a longer runtime.
And another season or 2.
If it weren't the finale I'd probably give it an 8 or 9, but being the season and series ending; I felt it deserved another solid 10.
Funny and right in the feels.
I do hope we get a spinoff
And another season or 2.
If it weren't the finale I'd probably give it an 8 or 9, but being the season and series ending; I felt it deserved another solid 10.
Funny and right in the feels.
I do hope we get a spinoff
If you recall, in Disco S3, the Kelvin timeline was mentioned (incursion of a Romulan mining ship).
Its possible that SF acquired the information on this reality by going through the rift - either that, or with the tech to scan time in 29th century (the technology for which was mentioned by Braxton in VOY - so the alternate Starfleet's could have developed the same thing).
L.D. does put into a bit of a question whether Disco is actually part of the prime timeline... and it seems plausible it might not be since its open to interpretation - Boims and Mariner could have travelled to a different universe when they crossed over with SNW... alternatively, Disco and SNW are part of the Prime timeline, but Disco itself could have instead jumped to a 32nd century of a different quantum reality (not Prime) - and their SF could have also gathered info on the Kelvin timeline with other means - especially if they encountered Prime SF and the rift leading to other realities which lead to reality-hopping information sharing,.
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