Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 5x10 - "The New Next Generation"
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They didn't know the show was cancelled when they wrote this season so probably just a coincidence here.
They did get to add 8 minutes of footage apparently to the finale, but I don't think we know what was added yet.
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Took me a second to realize what you were talking about as I had totally forgot about that thing....You mean you don’t like the jukebox bridge on Okuda’s version?
Yeah, I think I like the Lower Decks version more. A lot more.
General reminder that there are alternate quantum realities where the only difference is that Worf came in at 9th place in a Bat'leth competition instead of being Champion.
All those things mean is that it is a "close" universe.
The people running the Trek franchise have never actually spoken up on the subject in any official capacity.
Talk about moving the goal post.
Proof was provided. You choosing to ignore it has no actual bearing on the intent of those who produce the shows. Their intentions were clearly to show the connection between Discovery and the shows that preceded it.
Fantastic finale.
The dog. The klingorks. The dog. The birds of prey of different size and age that somehow still look the same. The dog. The ship changing configuration. Did I mention the dog?
9.
I’ll miss this series.
The dog. The klingorks. The dog. The birds of prey of different size and age that somehow still look the same. The dog. The ship changing configuration. Did I mention the dog?
9.
I’ll miss this series.
The simplest answer would be the end or coda. Changing the end by promoting Ransom, reassigning Freeman, and making the dual first officers would not have required any other work or rewrite to the core story.
Of course, neither would extending some of the other scenes, like the reality shifting Cerritos.
If I was going to add 8 minutes in response to learning the series was canceled, I'd go change the ending. This ending felt like a series finale.
I didn't ignore it, I pointed out those things didn't mean what you seem to think they did.
I appreciate the way that blood feuds among Klingons got depicted this episode. Killing one man doesn’t get rid of a problem, it just inspires his relatives to seek vengeance. First the brother and then the sister. It’s pretty much why vendettas are a bad things in real life (beyond vengeance in general being a bad thing).
I always preferred Starbase 80 being a genuinely terrible place and not just a Cerritos-lite but it seems that ship has sailed.
It’s also interesting that they revived the Rutherford-Tendi ship after docking it for seasons.
I always preferred Starbase 80 being a genuinely terrible place and not just a Cerritos-lite but it seems that ship has sailed.
It’s also interesting that they revived the Rutherford-Tendi ship after docking it for seasons.
Could be the rift closed naturally or was forced closed as a result of The Burn.
I wouldn’t mind a model of the single nacelle Freedom class Cerritos. Haha
Alright, now that I've let the episode settle in my head a bit, I've got some thoughts.
First, it's nice to get an episode that feels more like Lower Decks again. I don't know what the writing situation was like on the series, maybe Mike McMahan did a lot of work on every script, but this year had an almost completely new writing staff and I could tell something was off. The episode actually had McMahan credited as the writer though and the guy delivered.
Okay, the ship transforming into other possibilities was kind of ridiculous, didn't like that. But on the other hand, I liked seeing all the different Cerritos' and the joke about how Klingon ships all look the same was funny, so I'll let them get away with it.
We didn't get much character stuff with the crew, and what was there was mixed. They really rushed through Rutherford falling out of love with the ship and ripping out his implant, that was kind of weird, and Tendi and T'Lyn's brief falling out didn't work for me either. It was great seeing Freeman's absolute trust in Mariner, though her trust in that obviously sketchy message from the admiral wasn't so good. But they were our crew, they kicked ass in the end, and the California class was the exact right kind of ship they needed to save the day.
Freeman getting her promotion to a more prestigious job was a bit of a surprise, though it being a posting to Starbase 80 as foreshadowed was just perfect. This season has been a bit of a mess, but the individual episodes all introduced something that led to a satisfying resolution here, so I've got to give it that. Making Mariner and Boimler rival co-XOs was weird (did they learn nothing from Tilly?), but I can appreciate how the show ends on a set up for more comedy. They're not lower decks anymore, they've grown the beard, but the hijinx will continue off-screen.
And of course, the best part of the episode was the incontrovertible and unambiguous proof that Discovery takes place in an alternate universe
Well, maybe not. But we at least have the proof that the Disco Klingons and their ships aren't a visual reimagining, they really coexist in this multiverse along with regular bumpy forehead Prime Timeline Klingons. Now the question is, are they part of the Prime Timeline's pre-TOS past like the proto Klingons, or are they from an alternate reality like the Mirror Cerritos?
First, it's nice to get an episode that feels more like Lower Decks again. I don't know what the writing situation was like on the series, maybe Mike McMahan did a lot of work on every script, but this year had an almost completely new writing staff and I could tell something was off. The episode actually had McMahan credited as the writer though and the guy delivered.
Okay, the ship transforming into other possibilities was kind of ridiculous, didn't like that. But on the other hand, I liked seeing all the different Cerritos' and the joke about how Klingon ships all look the same was funny, so I'll let them get away with it.
We didn't get much character stuff with the crew, and what was there was mixed. They really rushed through Rutherford falling out of love with the ship and ripping out his implant, that was kind of weird, and Tendi and T'Lyn's brief falling out didn't work for me either. It was great seeing Freeman's absolute trust in Mariner, though her trust in that obviously sketchy message from the admiral wasn't so good. But they were our crew, they kicked ass in the end, and the California class was the exact right kind of ship they needed to save the day.
Freeman getting her promotion to a more prestigious job was a bit of a surprise, though it being a posting to Starbase 80 as foreshadowed was just perfect. This season has been a bit of a mess, but the individual episodes all introduced something that led to a satisfying resolution here, so I've got to give it that. Making Mariner and Boimler rival co-XOs was weird (did they learn nothing from Tilly?), but I can appreciate how the show ends on a set up for more comedy. They're not lower decks anymore, they've grown the beard, but the hijinx will continue off-screen.
And of course, the best part of the episode was the incontrovertible and unambiguous proof that Discovery takes place in an alternate universe
Well, maybe not. But we at least have the proof that the Disco Klingons and their ships aren't a visual reimagining, they really coexist in this multiverse along with regular bumpy forehead Prime Timeline Klingons. Now the question is, are they part of the Prime Timeline's pre-TOS past like the proto Klingons, or are they from an alternate reality like the Mirror Cerritos?
I have a whole dedicated thread about SB80.
TL;DR
Starfleet didn't just drop the ball. They dropped the entire circus act of jugglers.
With the new release of an official Cerritos model kit, I expect we'll see plenty of modelers making single nacelled versions of the ship, plus Miranda versions and Sovereign classes with Cerritos Nacelles.
I did. I thought perhaps Mary Kay Adams had returned to play her again.
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