Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x07 - "Erigah"
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No it wasn't, you're mistaking the time it would have taken the DMA to fully hit Earth with the time of the actual episode.
Names and maps run through a translation matrix to Federation Standard give things those names.
Names and maps run through a translation matrix to Klingon give different names.
That's the handy thing about automatic translation.
It has some vague similarities to US Navy customs on the human majority ships, but that's really all we know for sure.
It was all CG and spiffy looking. I demand nothing less than dodgy mid 90s animatics designed with physical models being filmed around it. Only that is pure. If they had to make it CG than they should have consulted with Lord Terry. Only He gets what makes Star Trek tick, by the Grace of Gene.
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What are you even talking about? They detect the debris and then Vance orders the planetary shield raised and multiple fragments begins impacting the shield. It's noted that the President of Earth is assisting on the surface so Vance orders to keep evacuating civilians until the last possible second. When it cuts back to the evacuation after a scene on discovery it's noted that multiple Federation ships are at evacuation capacity, so a significant amount of time has passed all the while debris has continously been hitting the shield.
This is from the scene right before the scene where Vance orders the planetary shield raised.
RENO: Better than Boy Genius. He'll be through to the power source in the next ten, just FYI.
This is from the scene directly after the one where Vance states various ships are at full capacity.
COMPUTER: Four minutes to casement breach.
Meaning it was literally less then six minutes between the two.
It is typical DISCO, they had to do something to justify DISCO staying. They realize that, they have Burnham, say it because she's smart. But a lot of times it does not make ANY sense.
For this one, it was tge same as the end of S2. Of course you jump away.
Step 1: Jump really far away.
Step 2: Jump to where you want to go
By the time they get to the first jump point, you have long sinced jumped away.
It is just as dumb now as it was in S2. Just a dumb as no one but Tyler taking a shuttle to communicate. Or no one having one of those bots pull a lever instead of having the Admiral do it.
The plot making no in-universe sense it an issue this show has issues with consistently.
I think what really bothers me about the Breen is that they are virtually indistinguishable from Klingons in terms of their militaristic, non-negotiating, world-conquering ways. The entire Rayner backstory could've just as easily (and believably) involved the Klingons, who may have even been better given the rather uninspired execution of the Breen... I agree with what was said above about having their language remain the same (maybe some inspired intonations), leaving us with subtitles since the Feds all understand the lingo... Although I did think the Vulcan president's retelling the interpreter's version more accurately was clever. I guess Tilly will likely be on the new show, given the reference to her cadets, in an otherwise throwaway scene. The "you have in in you" line inadvertently brought Michael Scott's "that's what she said" to my fevered mind. That Breen ship was completely unimaginative (IMO); even the old Borg cubes were more logical in design and concept. I also felt the fight scene between the ladies wasn't all that well directed, and the Big Sad moment, while scored nicely, lacked true emotional punch (IMO) for lack of chemistry between the actors. Overall an ordinary and underwhelming story, although lavishly produced I will admit. A low 8 from me.
@nightwolf1982 @Satellite of Love hug it out and get on, or leave the thread. Don't abuse the notify feature as a weapon.
Since nobody else sees to gave realised this, Mol wants the Progenitor tech to bring Lo'k back from the dead, as it was awkwardly established to do a few episodes ago.
If Moll only knew that all she has to do is use some banned time travel tech and go back and get some of Khan’s blood, instead of going on a treasure quest.
Jammer brought this up in his review but, since it was Jammer, my mind went to, "Because he thinks it, that's probably NOT what's going to happen." Putting my inclination to disagree with him nowadays aside, you have a point.
It would be ten times funnier if she took the VOY: "Mortal Coil" approach, went back in time and stole Borg nanoprobes but instead of it resurrecting her boyfriend she brings back the entire Borg collective.
and somehow it gets used on the remains of Kirk so he can appear in the Starfleet Academy show.
I still find it weird that the show is like almost 800 years beyond the latest show (Picard) with obvious much more advanced technologies and yet somehow things that reanimated dead people, allowed dying people to assume artificial bodies apparently has been forgotten or unimproved upon so that they need to seek out technology from billions of years in the past.
We had them creating entirely new body parts, Worf got a new spine, etc... You would think 800 years later medical technology would have leaped massively ahead.
I blame the right wing.
Reno was on Discovery. 6 minutes between those scenes doesn;t indicate that 6 minutes had passed in the events occuring around Earth.
The federation got incredibly incompetent, and just regressed. i'm sure the writers have accidentally put in wookies and lightsabers in their rough drafts.and somehow it gets used on the remains of Kirk so he can appear in the Starfleet Academy show.
I still find it weird that the show is like almost 800 years beyond the latest show (Picard) with obvious much more advanced technologies and yet somehow things that reanimated dead people, allowed dying people to assume artificial bodies apparently has been forgotten or unimproved upon so that they need to seek out technology from billions of years in the past.
We had them creating entirely new body parts, Worf got a new spine, etc... You would think 800 years later medical technology would have leaped massively ahead.
and somehow it gets used on the remains of Kirk so he can appear in the Starfleet Academy show.
I still find it weird that the show is like almost 800 years beyond the latest show (Picard) with obvious much more advanced technologies and yet somehow things that reanimated dead people, allowed dying people to assume artificial bodies apparently has been forgotten or unimproved upon so that they need to seek out technology from billions of years in the past.
We had them creating entirely new body parts, Worf got a new spine, etc... You would think 800 years later medical technology would have leaped massively ahead.
That's one of the weird things about the 32nd century for me too. If anything the Federation and Starfleet in the 32nd century should be more like something out of the Culture novels than TOS (One of the things that DIS: "Whistlespeak" did really well, even though in general I didn't like that episode, was the "eyecorder" tech and how well the undercover-in-a-primitive-society thing worked). We're seeing literally centuries of stagnation where the only major technological development seems to be Tron lighting!
And yes, the Burn, yes, suddenly dilithium became an incredibly important mcguffin again after TNG/DS9/VOY and even ENT pretty much ignored its existence beyond a mention or two... but even so. Why by the 32nd century can't you just replicate dilithium? Or use holographic dilithium? Or not have dilithium at all because why do warp drives still apparently work the same way after nine hundred years!? I don't really want to watch Star Trek for its take on a technologically regressed post-apocalyptic world.
But, Trek doesn't really do development. It does sameness.
There's a central tension to the jump to the 32nd century in Discovery.
On one hand, it was a change made because the EPs were tired of the complaints that Michael got in these big high-stakes adventures that threatened the whole of the Federation and/or galaxy. They wanted to get the show out of being a prequel so they had more freedom to keep doing this, so they had to jump ahead of any established canon events.
On the other hand, they also clearly bowed to the pressure that early DIS was "too weird," and wanted to make a show that was more recognizably similar to earlier Star Trek.
Thus in a lot of ways we ended up with the worst of both worlds - a far future setting where everything was immediately comprehensible to viewers, with more of a feel that a century or so had passed.
On one hand, it was a change made because the EPs were tired of the complaints that Michael got in these big high-stakes adventures that threatened the whole of the Federation and/or galaxy. They wanted to get the show out of being a prequel so they had more freedom to keep doing this, so they had to jump ahead of any established canon events.
On the other hand, they also clearly bowed to the pressure that early DIS was "too weird," and wanted to make a show that was more recognizably similar to earlier Star Trek.
Thus in a lot of ways we ended up with the worst of both worlds - a far future setting where everything was immediately comprehensible to viewers, with more of a feel that a century or so had passed.
Well, good thing it isn't then.
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