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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x07 - "Erigah"

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Aside from the utter stupidity of not breaking Moll & L'ak up, I thought this was the best of the season. And Book having a hissy fit (again).
 
Earth is shown to have a planetary shield, which eventually failed after hours of bombardment from debris spread by the DMA . So if your point is that shields can fail and planets can still be vulnerable, I agree.
Earth's shield in Discovery failed after all of one hit by something with a lot less energy then even a single salvo from the fleet in Picard.

Which again, is on Earth for choosing to build a new shield that was that weak instead of just keeping the same shield they originally had.
 
I know this. The relaunch books were released in the late 90s/early 2000s. So what's your point?

What a rude thing to say. I know the books won't dissappear but the characters, that universe that many readers enjoyed is gone for good and we are the poorer for it.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Rude?
Nothing rude about it. They'll still be there.
 
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One argument I do not understand is that this ep was boring. Maybe its me but I really enjoy the politics in a show, it fleshes out the different cultures and their ideology.


From what we know, no other species uses anything outside conventional warp.Yeah, that is a plot hole in the ep.

But what's odd is that didn't even have to be suggested in order to justify Discovery remaining where it was.
 
Earth's shield in Discovery failed after all of one hit by something with a lot less energy then even a single salvo from the fleet in Picard.

Which again, is on Earth for choosing to build a new shield that was that weak instead of just keeping the same shield they originally had.
Have you actually watched the episode? The shield was getting hit by debris for hours before it failed
 
I thought the episode was fine. L’ak dying was an interesting twist.

So now we know why Rayner is grumpy…tragic backstory. Shoulda seen it coming.

I’m sure we’ll get some DS9 Easter eggs and/or call backs. But I bet anything beyond a badlands visit is just wishful thinking.
 
It’ll be interesting how Discovery will ruin the Badlands in this. Will that also have bubbles. :)
 
I always found the “Badlands” a strange, self-contradictory term. Shouldn’t it be the “Badspace” as it’s referring to space and not land?
 
One thing I wish they would have kept for the Breen, although I admit it would make it a lot harder to be clear in the narrative, but I think it might have been interesting if they still had the sort of Chewbacca/R2-D2 thing they used in DS9, where the Breen just make noises and everyone around them understands and responds in English.

(Fun Fact: The Breen language in DS9 was based on Ira Steven Behr wanting the sound guys to make it similar to guitar feedback from Lou Reed's album "Metal Machine Music.")

I understand you couldn't do that with L'ak, but it would make the Breen a bit more mysterious and "alien."
I always found the “Badlands” a strange, self-contradictory term. Shouldn’t it be the “Badspace” as it’s referring to space and not land?
In a way, it gets into how if taken at face value how so much of the norms and nomenclature of the Federation is humancentric and basically shows humans giving alien things names we like. There's the "Badlands." We also have an area of space that's known as the "Briar Patch." And it also plays into the idea that given the importance of Earth within the Federation and Starfleet, a lot of the naming and mapping seems to revolve around human concepts of importance (e.g., our solar system being the official divider for the Alpha and Beta Quadrants, the area around our solar system is officially "Sector 001," etc.).

I mean Starfleet basically uses the structure and customs of the (human) US Navy almost verbatim, and it seems that in a Federation that spans 150 worlds (circa the 24th century) there's no other influences from any other culture's militaries that's been adopted.
 
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I always found the “Badlands” a strange, self-contradictory term. Shouldn’t it be the “Badspace” as it’s referring to space and not land?
Well, there are asteroids and stuff there. And the Maquis who based themselves there did include a native american indian so... typical US-centric naming.
Sounds like the Cardassians will be making an entrance?
 
It's got "Star Trek" in the title. Trek fans can't reject any form of Star Trek. Even if the Trek stuff they don't like.

I’m always gonna give a Star Trek show a chance. It why I won’t outright reject “Starfleet Academy” like some do. Me personally, I don’t hate any Star Trek show there are just shows I like better than others.

Hate watching has always been a strange concept for me.

One thing I wish they would have kept for the Breen, although I admit it would make it a lot harder to be clear in the narrative, but I think it might have been interesting if they still had the sort of Chewbacca/R2-D2 thing they used in DS9, where the Breen just make noises and everyone around them understands and responds in English.

yeah, I would have liked to see this too. It would have been a sneaky good callback. Maybe subtitle it or have the translation available if you turn on the closed captioning.
 
I always found the “Badlands” a strange, self-contradictory term. Shouldn’t it be the “Badspace” as it’s referring to space and not land?
"I'm in a badspace right now,"
"Is there anything I can do to help?"
"What? No, I'm in the Badspace! You know that crazy area near Bajor?"
 
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