Clearly he's the Shaw of Discovery. I guess they were inspired. He'll save the day in some fashion but probably die.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x02 - "Under the Twin Moons"
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According to SkyShowTime we're getting episode 2 on the 12th.
I hope not, but this episode had a bit of a, "He was only two weeks away from retirement!" vibe.
True. Although I guess either way we would not see Saru again after this season ends.
So, the bigger question for me is about his future in this season. Will my favorite character essentially vanish from the series now? Or will he be active but in a different way?
It would be disappointing if his role is now essentially over. I'm sure he'll back in some capacity but not as first officer. They seem to want to emphasize the Michael & Book relationship (yawn) and now also with Raynar. I'm afraid he's being pushed aside for those others.
Well, we'll see.
Not everyone, just couriers. So...population of a small town.
I'm pretty sure there were / are millions of couriers. Anything less doesn't make much sense.
She just happened to be a courier. Could've been any type of adventurer, criminal, organized crime, etc. The fact that she was a courier who was the daughter of his mentor in a large galaxy of possibilities is mind bogglingly unlikely!
I don't mind Moll and L'ak being couriers. It makes sense, plot-wise, for couriers to be digging around on an old ship like that.
What does bother me is Moll being Book's kinda-sorta sister or something. For one thing, it is absolutely not needed. We don't need a repeat of "Oh my God, my enemy is someone I care about deeply" from season 4 (Which we're still dealing with the ramifications of, to boot) Secondly, it brings us to a preposterous level of "small universe syndrome". Like, the bigger the universe gets, the smaller it becomes? WHaaaat?
What does bother me is Moll being Book's kinda-sorta sister or something. For one thing, it is absolutely not needed. We don't need a repeat of "Oh my God, my enemy is someone I care about deeply" from season 4 (Which we're still dealing with the ramifications of, to boot) Secondly, it brings us to a preposterous level of "small universe syndrome". Like, the bigger the universe gets, the smaller it becomes? WHaaaat?
It's clearly a cheap and easy way for the writers to increase the personal drama. It bakes it right into the plot.
OMG! We have to go to Trill where Grey is!
OMG! We have to deal with the daughter of Book's mentor when they're on opposing sides!
So far, I'm enjoying the ride and can overlook these points. Hopefully that continues!
Yeah, I am NOT looking forward to that. Gray is, by far, my least favorite character on DSC. He might even be my least favorite on any series. At least Wesley had some, I dunno, LIFE to him. My biggest fear on this season is that they will drag Gray along on the rest of this season, and he'll just drag down every episode he's in with angsty BS between him and Adira (To complement angsty BS with Book and Burnham, and apparently angsty BS with Book and Moll).
It's like my wife said last night: If she wanted that kind of show, she'd watch TLC (She does not, for the record, watch TLC).
Yes. It's called personal states and drama. Star Trek has relied on this since *counts on fingers* ok, a long time. The ambassador from Vulcan isn't just any Vulcan, but Spock's estranged father. The colony attacked has Kirk's brother on it and his family dies. The drama troupe leader is the governor who carried out a massacre that impacted Kirk.
And on and on it goes. At this point it's a bug not a feature.
Hmm...So that was the 60's. Any more modern examples of something as egregious as Book and Moll?
I understand about personal stakes. But...it isn't NEEDED. And I haven't seen any responses on here that said "Ooo, cool, she's his sister!" So at best, most people are ambivalent. At worst, people are rolling their eyes.
I can buy that. But the extra large dose at once was notable!
I posted my review of Red Directive. I obviously enjoyed it a lot. It was like watching a good blockbuster movie.
This one felt different. It was surely glossy in production as well, but this felt even more like the puzzle-solving of the original TNG episode.
I loved seeing Burnham and Saru as a full-fledged team in the field again and Saru exercising some of his abilities...just to stay sharp of course.
The only thing that would have made it better is if they had a Picard hologram giving them pointers on the old ruins. Something we sadly missed seeing him doing in his own show.
Book has been coming in useful so far in the 2 episodes but finding out he's related to Moll runs up some interesting possibilities.
Captain Rayner becomes the first officer! I did not see this coming. I suppose I should have known when we never saw his bridge crew.
Another 10 out of 10 for a real charmer of an episode.
This one felt different. It was surely glossy in production as well, but this felt even more like the puzzle-solving of the original TNG episode.
I loved seeing Burnham and Saru as a full-fledged team in the field again and Saru exercising some of his abilities...just to stay sharp of course.
The only thing that would have made it better is if they had a Picard hologram giving them pointers on the old ruins. Something we sadly missed seeing him doing in his own show.
Book has been coming in useful so far in the 2 episodes but finding out he's related to Moll runs up some interesting possibilities.
Captain Rayner becomes the first officer! I did not see this coming. I suppose I should have known when we never saw his bridge crew.
Another 10 out of 10 for a real charmer of an episode.
Yes, were Star Trek came from. The rallying cry has been for Trek to cling on to it's past, and use those same tropes.
None of the other examples I cited were needed either. It works in context here.
Yeah, we know why the writers picked that, but in universe, her profession isn't a coincidence. She's a courier, Burnham calls the courier she knows for intel, and only then is there a coincidence in that Book has a connection to her.
I'm not crying for Trek to cling to it's past. Maybe you're confusing me with someone else.
The 60s used that device as a quick crutch. Writing has evolved since then.
It didn't really work in context then. It doesn't really work in context now.
It is possible to still enjoy something and not think it's the apex of storytelling at the same time.
Depends on his programming and training. Maybe he didn't get the firearms and self defense sub-routine.
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