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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x03 - "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow"

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I think the writers realized there was merit is just accepting there's yet another alt-timeline and I for one think the show is better for it, than trying to rationalize away all the continuity issues with Rascally Roy Thomas-levels of mental gymnastics.

They acknowledged in that episode that Khan Noonien Singh’s activity was supposed to have happened in the 1990s in the original timeline but was happening over 30 years late. So of course there are alterations to the timeline.
 
I mean sure they do that, but then they keep trying to line up other things mentioned in TOS, like Kirk meeting Pike when he's fleet captain.

They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. Change what they want, but also stick to canon where they want.
 
I mean sure they do that, but then they keep trying to line up other things mentioned in TOS, like Kirk meeting Pike when he's fleet captain.

They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. Change what they want, but also stick to canon where they want.
Yes because Canon/Continuity in TOS and the Star Trek franchise in general, is so Bulletproof and consistent itself...oh wait...

The production team and writing team of Star Trek Strange New Worlds is not doing anything differently than any other previous production crew within the Star Trek franchise of the past 59 years.
 
I've been watching the series Fringe and in the second the last episode of Season 1, there was a conversation between Oliva, Peter and a character played by Clint Howard, and Star Trek was mentioned in the form of a conspiracy theory. I just learned tonight that that scene was inspiration for this episode of SNW when he says "Romulans, renegade Romulans here to change the timeline. The sworn enemy of the federation." That's a pretty cool connection and I wonder if Kurtzman brought that up, considering he was a showrunner for Fringe.
 
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I've been watching the series Fringe and in the second the last episode of Season 1, there was a conversation between Oliva, Peter and a character played by Clint Howard, and Star Trek was mentioned in the form of a conspiracy theory. I just learned tonight that that scene was inspiration for this episode of SNW when he says "Romulans, renegade Romulans here to change the timeline. The sworn enemy of the federation." That's a pretty cool connection and I wonder if Kurtzman brought that up, considering he was a showrunner for Fringe.

It was referring to Nero changing the timeline (JJ was involved in both Fringe and 2009, obviously) and it is also an inside joke to Leonard Nimoy being on the series, and is actually pretty relevent to the end-game of the show.
 
It was referring to Nero changing the timeline (JJ was involved in both Fringe and 2009, obviously) and it is also an inside joke to Leonard Nimoy being on the series, and is actually pretty relevent to the end-game of the show.

Clint is all the hell over Star Trek. SNW, DISCO, Enterprise, DS9 and TOS.
 
It was referring to Nero changing the timeline (JJ was involved in both Fringe and 2009, obviously) and it is also an inside joke to Leonard Nimoy being on the series, and is actually pretty relevent to the end-game of the show.

So the Strange New Worlds episode was basically just a re-working of the movie?
 
Its the earliest point that the timeline has been noticeably changed, IMO, predating the First Contact rewrite point, and seems to be a big part of the Temporal Cold War, which is responsible for the state of the timeline post original run TOS/TNG. ENT, DSC, SNW, etc)

Clint is all the hell over Star Trek. SNW, DISCO, Enterprise, DS9 and TOS.

It was years before I made that connection (I was on my 15 yr break from Trek at the time) and realized who it was.
 
Its the earliest point that the timeline has been noticeably changed, IMO, predating the First Contact rewrite point, and seems to be a big part of the Temporal Cold War, which is responsible for the state of the timeline post original run TOS/TNG. ENT, DSC, SNW, etc)
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Hmm, I've mentioned before, kind of tongue-in-cheek, how Picard already made changes to the depiction of Earth in the 2020s within the Trek universe by making it look so much like "our" 2020s. DS9 established that this time period should look like some weird dystopian version of the 1990s with godawful boxy clothes, the clunky computer terminals with low-res CRT monitors connected to this primitive network called the "Interface," and no smart devices, and people have "credit chips," whatever those are. Picard didn't specifically mention the Eugenics Wars, but Soong's Project Khan folder was apparently a remnant from the 1990s.

And then there was Voyager's visit to the 1990s, when the Earth was supposed to be in the throes of the Eugenics Wars or possibly in the messy aftermath, but the only hint of it that we got was Rain Robinson's model of the Botany Bay-type ship. But I suppose it just means that part of the world wasn't directly affected by the wars.

One more point on all this; in SNW season 1 there was footage of unrest on Earth that was clearly supposed to reflect the kinds of things happening in "our" 2020s, with Pike stating that this led to a second Civil War (US or World?), which came to be called the Eugenics Wars, and finally World War III [edit on review of the dialog, as it sounds like one long amalgamated conflict]. So all of this stuff had already been pushed forward chronologically before the "Tomorrow..." episode.

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