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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 4x09 - "The Inner Fight"

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My first ever post - be gentle ;)

I gave the episode a 9, I really enjoyed it. Nice to get some backstory to Mariner, gives our annoying but loveable rogue some context. And so good to see Freeman thinking a few steps ahead for a change.

I really like the callback to the series' namesake TNG episode, the whole situation with Sito Jaxa always resonated with me. And how the muddied narrative made her fate uncertain. Did Joret betray her? Or was her exfil merely compromised?

Is it conceivable she is alive? Perhaps, could have been beamed out of the escape pod before it was destroyed. But I think that would lessen the original TNG episode somewhat. I suppose I'm just worried they'll bring Sito back as a "quick fix" for Mariner's issues, I think that would be a mistake. Let her address and work through her issues like the rest of us do.

I'm really interested to see where this goes!
 
Yes, actually. He wasn't the highest on my list of "minor characters I hoped to find out what happened to them", but he was on it.

Who's highest and why is it Lady Q?

If he's on your list then it is reasonable to guess that Shelby is on someone's list.

Shelby was Mack Calhoun's first officer and I will not be accepting questions at this time.
 
Shelby was Mack Calhoun's first officer and I will not be accepting questions at this time.

None will be asked. Only character I remember having issues with was Robin Lefler's weird mother. She made Lwaxana look normal.

Who's highest and why is it Lady Q?

Simon Tarses. So you got age, sex, species, faction affiliation, and associated series wrong. But cheer up, as consolation prize, you get a copy of the home version.
 
Ro would not be hard to declare to have survived. Shaw would be problematic, since we saw him die. But there's always AU's to play with.

As for Shelby, they could probably bring her back... but would anyone want them to?

Shaw was attacked and (maybe) went unconscious. He could have been revived.

Did you ever see a picture of Tsar Nicholas II and his first cousin King George V? They both looked like their mothers, who were sisters, and they looked very much like each other. If we assume the mothers of Nick and Tom were identical twins, they’d look that much more alike. They would also be within a year or two apart in age, so they would have been at the Academy together.

Years ago, when CHEERS was on the air, I worked in a Data Center. There was a guy from some department who used to bring down punch cards to read into the batch processing. He looked EXACTLY like Ted Danson. I found out two days later they were first cousins.
 
I’m trying to picture Mariner in the TNG uniform in 2370 and the VOY outfit in 2371. It’s crazy she existed that long ago.
 
My first ever post - be gentle ;)

I gave the episode a 9, I really enjoyed it. Nice to get some backstory to Mariner, gives our annoying but loveable rogue some context. And so good to see Freeman thinking a few steps ahead for a change.

I really like the callback to the series' namesake TNG episode, the whole situation with Sito Jaxa always resonated with me. And how the muddied narrative made her fate uncertain. Did Joret betray her? Or was her exfil merely compromised?

Is it conceivable she is alive? Perhaps, could have been beamed out of the escape pod before it was destroyed. But I think that would lessen the original TNG episode somewhat. I suppose I'm just worried they'll bring Sito back as a "quick fix" for Mariner's issues, I think that would be a mistake. Let her address and work through her issues like the rest of us do.

I'm really interested to see where this goes!

Welcome aboard!

And great post.
 
Ro would not be hard to declare to have survived. Shaw would be problematic, since we saw him die. But there's always AU's to play with.

As for Shelby, they could probably bring her back... but would anyone want them to?

Just to clarify my earlier post, I was talking post-Picard Ro. The Founder/Shapeshifter MO was to take people, hook them up & probe their memories to use for advantage. Keeping them alive even after they had been replaced. That is how Tuvok survived. As a Starfleet Intelligence Officer, there is a rational reason for the baddies to keep Ro alive.

As for Sito, her death was always open ended. I mean, it looked bad. But again, there is a reason to keep her alive (info) AND a reason to make it look like she is dead (so no one comes after her). For me, 15 years in a Cardassian camp does not cheapen anything.

As for Shaw. He is dead. Shelby looked bad, but is not impossible. Ro had a real connection to JLP (and Riker, they slept together). She is different. And Sito has a connection Mariner & Lacarno.

I just don't but Locarno as a baddie. That wasn't who he is. He isn't killing anyone. And is clearly still thinking about his Nova Squadron teammates. Sito is likely driving it. It cannot be Wesley. I guess it could be Hajar, but presumably there is no Mariner connection there.

I get the idea about pushing back on folks not staying dead. Spock. Kirk. Elnor. Data. Picard. But plenty of people do: Tasha, Jadzia, Tripp, Hugh, Hemmer, Icheb, Shaw, Kirk (the 2nd time). Pike cannot escape his fate.
 
I'm going to throw this one out there:

Ensign Sito IS alive. However, she has nothing to do with Nick Lorcano's project. I think she was secretly recruited by Section 31, and that she was the one to recruit "Evil Boimler". After THIS episode, I suspect Mike McMahan will be deep diving into a lot more LDX lore than just with this series, firmly tying past series to THIS one.
 
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