nice attention to detail! Either that or everyone gets demoted!heh if you go back and watch the trailers for this eason, they edited out the character's new pips in scenes from episodes after they were promoted.
Nah one of the shots is of Tendi from this episode.nice attention to detail! Either that or everyone gets demoted!
I remember that. It was after Paris was REPROMOTED (Janeway just could not handle status quo changes, I guess, after she demoted him for direct insubordination). Kim said something like, "there wouldn't be a promotion for me would there?" It was kind of pathetic, really. Harry was being wishy-washy. Janeway was probably waiting for him to grow a spine and overtly ask for a promotion. I bet Kathryn herself did so when she was starting out. The fact Harry went seven years without one after repeated acts of heroism and ingenuity, general hyper-competence, and even taking a command role... is really incongruous otherwise. Unless Janeway had a personal grudge...?Harry asked about it, Janeway wasn't so accomodating.
I remember that. It was after Paris was REPROMOTED (Janeway just could not handle status quo changes, I guess, after she demoted him for direct insubordination). Kim said something like, "there wouldn't be a promotion for me would there?" It was kind of pathetic, really. Harry was being wishy-washy. Janeway was probably waiting for him to grow a spine and overtly ask for a promotion. I bet Kathryn herself did so when she was starting out. The fact Harry went seven years without one after repeated acts of heroism and ingenuity, general hyper-competence, and even taking a command role... is really incongruous otherwise. Unless Janeway had a personal grudge...?
Has anyone actually asked Berman and Braga why they never gave him a promotion? Was it that old stupid "watch in any order" mentality?
The story I heard, though I don't know if there's any truth to it is after Tom got demoted, all the writers just instinctively kept writing "Lieutenant Paris" in the scripts anyway. Eventually Braga got sick of always having to correct it to "Ensign Paris" that he finally just decided to have Tom re-promoted.It was after Paris was REPROMOTED (Janeway just could not handle status quo changes, I guess, after she demoted him for direct insubordination).
While not given as a reason for not promoting the character, Braga has admitted he never liked Harry Kim the character to the point he would often hand in scripts only for Berman to hand them back and say "there's no Harry Kim in this script" requiring Braga to rewrite it to include Harry.Has anyone actually asked Berman and Braga why they never gave him a promotion? Was it that old stupid "watch in any order" mentality?
Another thing to remember, from season 4 onwards, Harry's presence on the show was studio mandated. The original plan in Scorpion was to kill him off in order to make room for Seven of Nine. That's why he got attacked by Species 8472 in Part 1. But then, People Magazine did a list of the most beautiful people on television and Garrett Wang made the list, at which point UPN stepped in and told Berman "you're keeping him on the show" and Kes was written off instead. I suspect Harry never got promoted as a means of the writers rebelling against the decision to keep a character they didn't want.
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