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Spoilers AHSOKA series [Spoiler Discussion]

I enjoyed Rebels far more than I enjoyed The Clone Wars, and I think Ahsoka actually fits in better with Rebels, even though her part was pretty minor.

In the premiere, did anyone else get a cool sort of Macross / anime vibe with the music as Sabine was racing the E-wings down the freeway? I think that might have been my favorite sequence in the opener.
 
If you've never seen the Rebels animated TV show, you ought to give it a look. Hera is an awesome character, and den mother of the crew. It also tracks her character arc from leader of a single, small rebel cell to an eventual mover and shaker in the greater Rebel Alliance.

I tried watching the animated shows, but just couldn't get into them. But yes, people that like them really enjoy them. I have many friends that do.
 
Shoot. Is it necessary to watch the clone wars to?

No, but Rebels is. Everything we've seen so far in Ahsoka has Rebels as its backstory.
Having said that, the eps make it quite clear what the storyline is about but from an emotional impact then yes a lot is missing if you're not familiar with the Rebels characters.
 
Looking forward to the Mandalorian two-parter.

I watched Rebels for a while but it kind of lost me towards the end and I had stopped watching. This seemed fun to me but I do have some notion of who the characters are that new viewers won't. So when Sabine cut her hair and grabbed her armor there was a little extra there and I of course loved seeing my favorite character Chopper. It all looks pretty fantastic and seemed a great representation of classic matinee style Star Wars. It felt like watching a big Star Wars adventure and not some side story.

Surprised they didn't have Sabine riding a space Vespa, I guess they didn't want those scenes to be TOO exciting.
 
I could barely finish the first episode. Haven't watched the second.

But, holy hell, did that suuuuuck!

My expectations were low, but I at least expected some level of baseline competence.

That was just a complete and utter whiff.

Bad acting. MEW being the worst, but Dawson wasn't far behind. Sabine was okay.

Seriously bad writing. Some awful dialogue.

Terrible pacing. Just atrociously slow and boring. Absolutely no stakes except for the vague b.s. about "another war!'" coming.

Nothing felt remotely personal to anyone. Laborious exposition did nothing to endear these characters. Everything relevant or interesting happened in the past, either in Rebels or in the unseen years in between.

How unbelievably dumb was that Republic captain, BTW?

The scene in the temple was soo slow and boring and lacking in anything approaching suspense or intrigue. Ditto Sabine's "deciphering" of the map, which looked less complicated than solving a Rubik's cube.

So much lazy writing, so many shortcuts, so many unanswered questions.

"Sabine can help decipher the map!" Uh, why? What's special about her? No explanation.

"This ancient, thousand-year-old map will help us find a guy who's been missing for 6 years!" Uh, it will? HOW?!

While Book of Boba Fett was obviously an atrocious show, I think this is an even worse debut episode.

Seriously, who the hell asked for this?

I'm a huge Rebels fan. I agree with everything you critique in your post. Same with low expectations given what Disney+ has produced with Star Wars and Marvel(a whole of streeeeetched out story line with little happening).

I have to add: Qui Gon Jinn has got to be one of the weakest Jedis in existence to have just keeled over dead after getting impaled. :p
 
I tried watching the animated shows, but just couldn't get into them. But yes, people that like them really enjoy them. I have many friends that do.
Likewise, sadly. Bailed on Clone Wars after the dire Mortis episodes, got about half way through Rebels and swore off animated Star Wars.

I know people that love them, but I've tried and I just don't.
 
I enjoyed Rebels far more than I enjoyed The Clone Wars, and I think Ahsoka actually fits in better with Rebels, even though her part was pretty minor.

In the premiere, did anyone else get a cool sort of Macross / anime vibe with the music as Sabine was racing the E-wings down the freeway? I think that might have been my favorite sequence in the opener.
Does no one else use those roads? ;)
 
It's Star Trek starship corridor physics. 200-1,000 people aboard but at most one to three people in the corridor at any given time.
 
That was some good ass Star Wars. I need to go through the thread, but for me, I was absolutely expecting to not be disappointed and I wasn't! Even the, like, two things I didn't like I will get over in another episode or two, probably.

I like the way they set up the new dynamic with the main three. We are at a new place for all these characters, and I think doing it that way may have made it more accessible for those who didn't watch Rebels? I dunno I can't imagine watching this without Rebels. I am not on board with Hera quite yet but I'm sure I'll warm up to her in an episode or two. I'm not usually the iTs NoT LiKe tHe CaRtoOn!! but her being that tall was very distracting for me, on top of her just not feeling like Hera. But CHOPPER delivered, aggressively. I'd watch an entire series about him.
 
I'll let you know how it goes.

Thus far the clips seem to have the story together hold by itself.

They pepper in just enough of the past story to make the present story make sense. I guess it's like Obi-wan mentioning the Clone Wars in a New Hope as a method. I guess what I mean is that, as a sequel to Rebels this was immensely satisfying and I wonder what the show feels like without that element.
 
I've been looking for an online reference and have been unable to find one. Does anyone know what group or track that was that playing (the twangy anime sounding stuff) when Sabine was racing the E-wings on Lothal? In the first episode, when we first see her.

Also,

Does no one else use those roads? ;)

The road just seems to end in the middle of nowhere, too. I always wondered what the purpose for them was, given the lack of wheeled / tracked vehicles. Maybe an open-field starship berth at the end, and the roads are used for transporting large cargo loads, sort of like the train-like contraptions on Scarif that ran from the landing fields to the central tower?
 
I enjoyed Rebels far more than I enjoyed The Clone Wars, and I think Ahsoka actually fits in better with Rebels, even though her part was pretty minor.

In the premiere, did anyone else get a cool sort of Macross / anime vibe with the music as Sabine was racing the E-wings down the freeway? I think that might have been my favorite sequence in the opener.

Yep. I couldn't put my finger on it right away, but then it hit me. Akira! Loved the sequence and I love the new ship design. So those are called E-Wings?
 
They pepper in just enough of the past story to make the present story make sense. I guess it's like Obi-wan mentioning the Clone Wars in a New Hope as a method. I guess what I mean is that, as a sequel to Rebels this was immensely satisfying and I wonder what the show feels like without that element.
Like this show is its own story.

I don't mean that flippantly but I don't know how else to describe it. I gave up on Rebels after the first 5 episodes as it just didn't hook me in, similarly to Clone Wars. Nothing against the shows but they lacked that part that I feel connected to in any way when it came to Star Wars.

The closest example I can give is watching Episode 4 back when it was just STAR WARS. You didn't have these huge exposition dumps but rather the idea that this was a moving world that had it's own history and we may or may not get to see all of it. That's when Star Wars feels the most organic is when it drops you in at the latest possible time in an ongoing story and still have it make sense, but you know that the world feels like it still existed before you started the story and after the story ends.
 
Yep. I couldn't put my finger on it right away, but then it hit me. Akira! Loved the sequence and I love the new ship design. So those are called E-Wings?

The new fighters seen on Lothal really aren't new, although it's the first time they've been seen in live action. They are E-wings. I also loved that their astromechs are throwback easter eggs to the original Kenner versions of the R2-D2 action figure, with the big round eye in their domes.

The closest example I can give is watching Episode 4 back when it was just STAR WARS. You didn't have these huge exposition dumps but rather the idea that this was a moving world that had it's own history and we may or may not get to see all of it. That's when Star Wars feels the most organic is when it drops you in at the latest possible time in an ongoing story and still have it make sense, but you know that the world feels like it still existed before you started the story and after the story ends.

My favorite 'period' of Star Wars is from 1977 to about the end of 1980, the first six months or so after ESB. We had two movies, the comics, the toys, and Splinter of the Mind's Eye. And that was IT.
 
My favorite 'period' of Star Wars is from 1977 to about the end of 1980, the first six months or so after ESB. We had two movies, the comics, the toys, and Splinter of the Mind's Eye. And that was IT.
I think I still like the post ROTJ/pre-TMP era as well, with a little bit of a mix of video games, toys, as well as books. I found that the OT period is my favorite now. The PT is less interesting, and the ST is fun but unnecessary. Ahsoka, Mando and Book of Boba Fett are wonderful side explorations but ultimately don't have an impact on the OT.

That's my view and probably a bit confusing.
 
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