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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

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I always found it interesting when people talk about life support being off, there's this idea that it instantly becomes deadly to be in those areas, when life support shutting down just means there will be no new support given in that area. What oxygen and heat remains will still be there for a while. A ship the size of the Enterprise would have oxygen and heat for hours before there would be any real danger.
This is the show that whenever they lose power they instantly fall out of orbit. Or crash into a sun. Within minutes! (Which episode has more annoying orbital mechanics? Galileo Seven or Relics?)
 
I always found it interesting when people talk about life support being off, there's this idea that it instantly becomes deadly to be in those areas, when life support shutting down just means there will be no new support given in that area. What oxygen and heat remains will still be there for a while. A ship the size of the Enterprise would have oxygen and heat for hours before there would be any real danger.

Unless those sections were exposed to space. The computer warning on the Cayuga did say life support was getting dangerously low where Chapel was, and that's probably only because of no power for any new life support and it was in an area behind a force field. And she did tie in some new power, though given the ship was destroyed, I don't know where that was coming from.
 
Maybe that's why somebody thought that the Gorn could exist in the vacuum of space. Life support going down can be interpreted as "no more air in that part of the ship" and somehow "no air" got conflated with "vacuum of space."
 
This is the show that whenever they lose power they instantly fall out of orbit. Or crash into a sun. Within minutes! (Which episode has more annoying orbital mechanics? Galileo Seven or Relics?)
True, Trek always played around with physics for dramatic effect.

Unless those sections were exposed to space. The computer warning on the Cayuga did say life support was getting dangerously low where Chapel was, and that's probably only because of no power for any new life support and it was in an area behind a force field. And she did tie in some new power, though given the ship was destroyed, I don't know where that was coming from.
Probably an emergency oxygen generator or something, kind of like how we have backup generators in case power fails.

Maybe that's why somebody thought that the Gorn could exist in the vacuum of space. Life support going down can be interpreted as "no more air in that part of the ship" and somehow "no air" got conflated with "vacuum of space."
Yep. The thing is, unless it's explicitly stated as being part of their biology, that makes it wibbly wobbly, and so shame on Sean (I love him) for using a very wibbly wobbly interpretation to give an episode a down, when it's indicated exactly nowhere else in all of Star Trek.
 
I would imagine that even a basic O2 scrubber could be built in to decks that operates independently of the main life support system, with it's own basic power supply (possibly localized) in the event of an emergency. It won't operate forever as the power supply gives out but locally it could keep the air breathable enough.
 
One could imagine that there are backup batteries located throughout the ship.
Especially in locations like the transporter room and the sickbay.
Where Christine found the spacesuit could also be a battery juncture in that part of the ship.

They are most likely connected to the EPS system.
 
One could imagine that there are backup batteries located throughout the ship.
Especially in locations like the transporter room and the sickbay.
Where Christine found the spacesuit could also be a battery juncture in that part of the ship.

They are most likely connected to the EPS system.

An early TOS episode ("The Corbomite Maneuver"?) does mention emergency batteries so this could very well be a thing.
 
While I think I must rewatch the episode before I can grade it, it was a hit and miss. The Gorn, which is already irreconcilable with TOS (where the name of the species was unknown to the crew), has transformed into something akin to the "Alien" .That doesn't mean that it's bad, but derivative. The episode also has looong, boring scenes. And Scotty, oh my. No good first impression.
 
I think the treatment of the Gorn is a bait and switch. The show is intentionally setting them up as monsters, pushing the beliefs of Pike and the crew who believe that any species can be understood, find common ground and reason with them. The majority of the Gorn we’ve seen so far are children in a feeding frenzy, they eat each other and any other living thing they can find. The only adult we’ve seen was clearing trying to access systems on a starship, so they’re intelligent by the time they reach adulthood.

Since the show made it clear that there were coronal mass ejections before the attack, maybe it had something to do with their reproductive cycle. Similar to how certain animal species on Earth have reproductive cycles timed to full moons or how Vulcans have Pon Farr every seven years, it’s just a fact of their biology. Sending the border line to Starfleet could be them warning them to stay away for their own safety.
 
The Gorn, which is already irreconcilable with TOS (where the name of the species was unknown to the crew),
That's not supported by what we saw in the episode.
Remember, the Enterprise crew came in late to the Metron's transmission.
Only Kirk makes mention of the name and he does so in such a way that can be interpreted to fit what we now know.

The Metrons called it a Gorn, but it doesn't exactly fit the description that Kirk is aware of in SNW.
 
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I forgot to mention about the line.

The Enterprise never crossed it. Yet the Gorn fired on her repeatedly at the end. They were going against the line they themselves sent to Starfleet. It shows they are not very trustworthy.
 
I forgot to mention about the line.

The Enterprise never crossed it. Yet the Gorn fired on her repeatedly at the end. They were going against the line they themselves sent to Starfleet. It shows they are not very trustworthy.
As soon as the comm blocker went down, I'm sure the Gorn was able to detect transporter activity between the Enterprise and the planet, so they likely considered that "crossing the line."
 
A reminder to the folks who are trying to square things not lining up perfectly with TOS..

The show runners have already said they're going to be adjusting some things in this one, which is basically going to overwrite certain things in the canon, such as who mets who and when and what shows up and when
 
As soon as the comm blocker went down, I'm sure the Gorn was able to detect transporter activity between the Enterprise and the planet, so they likely considered that "crossing the line."

Fair point. But considering they took hundreds of people (per Pike's dialogue), that seems pretty ridiculous they would be mad at 3 people being beamed up from the planet.


I suppose it would be really ironic if the Gorn destroyer beamed those people up to protect them from the younglings and were considering sending them back to the Federation.
 
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