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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x08 - "Under the Cloak of War"

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I guess, I'm not saying an inquest isn't warranted (maybe S3), or that it might technically be a criminal act - only that, given the circumstances, I'm not losing sleep over those circumstances. And I don't think M'Benga should go to prison for it. Whatever else happens, he seems willing to accept the consequences. He feels that justice has been served. And it was NEVER about harassment.
This is something to really keep in mind is what the audience saw and what Pike knows are two different things, and even the audience is set up to be ambiguous, and hence the long soliloquies of moral certitude being espoused.

M'Benga might face an inquiry, since a death aboard a starship would warrant such. Beyond that? I don't see much more occurring. The Klingons won't mourn for his loss, and the political ramifications will likely keep it on the down low.
 
I keep forgetting to mention, and I haven't seen it in THIRTY FOUR pages since I joined the thread, that it really highlights M'Benga's line from Among the Lotus Eaters:

"Doctors love being tasked for a mission because of their combat skills."
 
I keep forgetting to mention, and I haven't seen it in THIRTY FOUR pages since I joined the thread, that it really highlights M'Benga's line from Among the Lotus Eaters:

"Doctors love being tasked for a mission because of their combat skills."

That was a good line, and I remember it well. I wonder if that line was the prelude to getting the writing staff to think up this story for M'Benga. Sort of like how Dukat's line about Cardassian trials always ending with guilty in "THE MAQUIS, PART II" inspired "TRIBUNAL" only a few episodes later in season 2.
 
I quoted every single post you responded to me on or quoted me. And not once did you ask me to leave you alone.

I asked you DIRECTLY to not quote or respond to me again in this thread. TWICE!

Leave me the fuck alone and stop trolling.
again, you only see what you want to see. But, as I already wrote a few posts ago, I’m over with this. Thank you.
 
I keep forgetting to mention, and I haven't seen it in THIRTY FOUR pages since I joined the thread, that it really highlights M'Benga's line from Among the Lotus Eaters:

"Doctors love being tasked for a mission because of their combat skills."
It does create an interesting line with moving from Episode 1 to Episode 4, and how M'Benga has a different past than perhaps many would assume that he would have as a doctor.
 
I don't suppose that at this point in time the computer would keep visual records of everything that goes on aboard the ship?

In TNG and later shows, pretty much everything that happens on the ship is recorded. I guess that level of technology doesn't exist yet. So there'd be no recording of the fight between M'Benga and Dak'Rah.
 
I don't suppose that at this point in time the computer would keep visual records of everything that goes on aboard the ship?

In TNG and later shows, pretty much everything that happens on the ship is recorded. I guess that level of technology doesn't exist yet. So there'd be no recording of the fight between M'Benga and Dak'Rah.
Kirk pretty much challenges the presentation of evidence about Pike's mission to "Talos IV" as being impossible due to records never being that precise. So, no I would not imagine such records are kept, save for the most secured areas, like the armory, engineering, and the bridge. Sickbay would be governed potentially under health privacy type laws so such visual records would probably not be kept.
 
It does create an interesting line with moving from Episode 1 to Episode 4, and how M'Benga has a different past than perhaps many would assume that he would have as a doctor.
Indeed: a great thing of this episode is that it expands on the backstory of war that was introduced for M’Benga and Chapel in the season opener.
I don't suppose that at this point in time the computer would keep visual records of everything that goes on aboard the ship?
It arguably does on the bridge (as per Court Martial), but evidently not in sickbay.

In TNG and later shows, pretty much everything that happens on the ship is recorded. I guess that level of technology doesn't exist yet. So there'd be no recording of the fight between M'Benga and Dak'Rah
I can’t quite think of any, but I think that even for later series one may surmise that many areas of the ship are not under constant recording.
In fact we already have such technology, we can only guess Starfleet doesn’t want to use it due to a strong sense of privacy.
 
can you elaborate? I don’t remember that, but I’m rewatching Voyager just now after some ten years since last time.
You're challenging my aging memory now. I'll see if I can find it but I think it's one of the sleep aliens and the Doctor comments on tracking the crew's brain waves or something.
 
I don't suppose that at this point in time the computer would keep visual records of everything that goes on aboard the ship?

In TNG and later shows, pretty much everything that happens on the ship is recorded. I guess that level of technology doesn't exist yet. So there'd be no recording of the fight between M'Benga and Dak'Rah.

It sure didn't exist in "The Alternative Factor(TOS)" and that's more than seven years into the future.
 
You're challenging my aging memory now. I'll see if I can find it but I think it's one of the sleep aliens and the Doctor comments on tracking the crew's brain waves or something.
thanks anyway.

It sure didn't exist in "The Alternative Factor(TOS)" and that's more than seven years into the future.
Indeed, and Lazarus sabotages an area of the ship where constant surveillance would make much more sense than in sickbay.
 
If you have an obviously disturbed alien on board your ship and don't even have the 23rd century equivalent of CCTV watching your Engineering sections for possible accidents, intruders and other incidents then I don't know what to tell you. I know TOS was filmed in the era before closed circuit cameras became all the rage but still.

You'd think.
 
Save for on Voyager were they like to monitor brain waves at least.

I don't think VOY was violating privacy when they were monitoring brain waves in episodes like "INFINITE REGESS" (Seven has multiple assimilated people coming out through her) or during Vorik or Tuvok's pon farr ("BLOOD FEVER" and "BODY AND SOUL"). Those were specific medical issues that were life threatening. Besides, they couldn't actually read the thoughts, only see if the brain was going off kilter.
 
I don't think VOY was violating privacy when they were monitoring brain waves in episodes like "INFINITE REGESS" (Seven has multiple assimilated people coming out through her) or during Vorik or Tuvok's pon farr ("BLOOD FEVER" and "BODY AND SOUL"). Those were specific medical issues that were life threatening. Besides, they couldn't actually read the thoughts, only see if the brain was going off kilter.
Thank you. I figured I was misremembering something.

Been way too long since I've watched Voyager.

If you have an obviously disturbed alien on board your ship and don't even have the 23rd century equivalent of CCTV watching your Engineering sections for possible accidents, intruders and other incidents then I don't know what to tell you. I know TOS was filmed in the era before closed circuit cameras became all the rage but still.

You'd think.
I mean, do we need to go through the list of Starfleet security fails? It's a lot.
 
Thank you. I figured I was misremembering something.

Been way too long since I've watched Voyager.


I mean, do we need to go through the list of Starfleet security fails? It's a lot.

You're welcome. Always happy to lend a bit of trivia. :hugegrin:


As for a list of Starfleet security fails, Odo started to do exactly that to Worf in "BAR ASSOCIATION".

(I will never forget the smile on his face when Worf said 'these things didn't happen on the Enterprise'. And he just happened to have a list on hand right there on the right side of his desk. Damn, Odo was awesome!)
 
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