Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x04 - "Among the Lotus Eaters"
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I fell asleep in the middle. No big loss.
People do this all the time. Say 5 years when it's technically closer to six years, or even seven, 30 years when it's really closer to 36.
This is my weakest episode this season personally, but still voted 7. The opening act was easily the best part this week.
There are so many great character moments throughout the episode, with Ortegas being a little more in the spotlight. I loved her enthusiasm at being able to do more in the beginning.
I also thought that it feels like it's been a while since we came across a Starfleet officer left behind on a planet, and declaring themselves their leader. It was very TOS.
There are so many great character moments throughout the episode, with Ortegas being a little more in the spotlight. I loved her enthusiasm at being able to do more in the beginning.
I also thought that it feels like it's been a while since we came across a Starfleet officer left behind on a planet, and declaring themselves their leader. It was very TOS.
ah, the first great episode of this season. gave it a 9/10. interesting concept, solid acting, good script. finally back to form
That Kalar was the Richard Kiel of the Kalar. Or Kielar to his friends!
oh man, the 70s want their references back
Meh.
This episode was very TOS in the sense that it was "premise-based," while most of SNW has been character based.
What do I mean? Just that even though the episode tried to weave little character bits into the show, such as Pike's background on Rigel VII and his floundering relationship, ultimately, there was nothing in this episode that really required the SNW characters themselves to be involved. It could have just as easily been an episode of TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, etc., with different characters occupying the same roles.
Which is part of why it all rings a little thin to me. I mean, they tried to have an emotional theme here, with Pike's feelings for Batel centering him and the reflection upon loss and memory by Luq at the end. But fundamentally this is just a "crew discovers negative space wedgie" episode, which we've seen plenty of before.
Also, if I were Melissa Navia, I would be pissed. She finally gets "an episode" to prove Ortegas something other than a quippy, chipper person with a high-maintenance haircut who flies the ship. We discover she's...a quippy chipper person with a high-maintenance haircut who flies the ship! Obviously, you can't plumb the depths of someone's psyche in an amnesia episode, but still, this was pretty goddamned disappointing.
Overall, very little to say here because the episode had very little to say. I honestly liked the TNG take on ship-wide amnesia better, where the crew started trying on different roles and interacting in ways we wouldn't expect rather than just stumbling around and ignoring one another, except for when the plot required it.
This episode was very TOS in the sense that it was "premise-based," while most of SNW has been character based.
What do I mean? Just that even though the episode tried to weave little character bits into the show, such as Pike's background on Rigel VII and his floundering relationship, ultimately, there was nothing in this episode that really required the SNW characters themselves to be involved. It could have just as easily been an episode of TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, etc., with different characters occupying the same roles.
Which is part of why it all rings a little thin to me. I mean, they tried to have an emotional theme here, with Pike's feelings for Batel centering him and the reflection upon loss and memory by Luq at the end. But fundamentally this is just a "crew discovers negative space wedgie" episode, which we've seen plenty of before.
Also, if I were Melissa Navia, I would be pissed. She finally gets "an episode" to prove Ortegas something other than a quippy, chipper person with a high-maintenance haircut who flies the ship. We discover she's...a quippy chipper person with a high-maintenance haircut who flies the ship! Obviously, you can't plumb the depths of someone's psyche in an amnesia episode, but still, this was pretty goddamned disappointing.
Overall, very little to say here because the episode had very little to say. I honestly liked the TNG take on ship-wide amnesia better, where the crew started trying on different roles and interacting in ways we wouldn't expect rather than just stumbling around and ignoring one another, except for when the plot required it.
Sadly, it seems that they're setting up an unrequited love for Nurse Chapel to go along with Chapel's maybe requited love for Spock.
Melissa Navia herself is not queer, so I'd be let down if they make her character a lesbian just because she looks the part.
I feel the same but this would be the 2nd "longing sad gaze at Chapel" after the first in "Spock Amok"
I liked it. Second best episode of the season so far, behind "Ad Astra per Aspera" for me. A 7 out of 10, I think. But yeah, overall I think I still prefer the comics version of the Rigel VII mission.
R.I.P. to Captain's Yeoman Dermot Cusack again, who suffered the double indignity of getting killed off and then replaced in ST canon by this Zack person. Which raises an interesting question: If you're a character from a tie-in comic that's killed off and later revealed to have never existed in canon, have you ever truly lived?
R.I.P. to Captain's Yeoman Dermot Cusack again, who suffered the double indignity of getting killed off and then replaced in ST canon by this Zack person. Which raises an interesting question: If you're a character from a tie-in comic that's killed off and later revealed to have never existed in canon, have you ever truly lived?
Sounds like this one is a Meh.
It's the worst since the Gorn episode last year but "meh" for SNW is top tier Trek compared to your average DSC or PIC episode.
Probably.
I'm surprised by the common reaction. For me it's the top of the season for this moment.
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Only in the reader's mind. Which is what counts the most at the end of the day.
Ensign Zack uses his Starfleet gear to set himself up as King of the Planet a la Ronald Tracey. Nice callback. I suppose Starfleet officers left to their own devices while being separated from the community of their crewmates tend to go off the deep end and lose their moral center.
The social stratification between the Kalar in the palace/castle and the field workers also reminded me of the divisions between the Stratos city dwellers and how the zenite miners on the surface of Ardana all suffered stunted intellectual development due to the gases emitted during the zenite mining process.
Heh ... We know.
I liked the Gorn episode last year. Last years worst was when they were made to play out a kid's fantasy book and M'Benga kinda let aliens just take his daughter away. (Though I understood the deeper meanings of that.)
Someone said this was a Threshold level? Wow. And it's Ortegas' spotlight episode and not much?
I almost watched it before work this morning but the early commentary turned me off on the idea. Will watch this afternoon when I get home. I mean every trek show/season is going to have a bad episodes (and I know for me this season eill be the LD crossover, I just don't like LD.) So just want to know what I'm in for tonight.
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