Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x04 - "Among the Lotus Eaters"
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Also, probably not enough pew-pew involved for many.
But plenty of whack whack whack.
Yeah, I guess we have to believe that. But why was the original landing party carrying all that heavy weaponry in the first place?They left them behind last time and didn't notice, apparently
OK, I guess they look more impressive than type I phasers, but i expected better attention to detail.
And wearing full uniform in what's now established as a pre-warp planet? (For what it's worth non-canon tie-ins had Rigel 7 as a developed planet seeking Fed membership with the Kalar as a primitive class, but this episode bulldozed all that now)
Also this was already strange in TOS but what could the sword and shield Kalar possibly have done to the Enterprise crew that they needed to go to Vega colony to treat the injuries and the massive medical wing of Enterprise can't handle it? Before we could pretend that the Rigellians somehow damaged sickbay, or that they somehow used advanced weapons alongside the primitive Kalar that strained even the Enterprise's medical resources. Now those imagined explanations are out the window.
That was ok. It left me with questions.
Are the Kalar extremely long-lived? If the asteroid hit thousands of years ago, how could any kind of society have survived? Like, was Luq born as a field Kalar and somehow made a family with people who could never remember anything? Who named him? How did he ever learn to talk? He had a son, but how did he remember from the pregnancy of presumably someone else and even know a child was his? How do you begin a bond with someone you can't remember from day-to-day?
Are the Kalar extremely long-lived? If the asteroid hit thousands of years ago, how could any kind of society have survived? Like, was Luq born as a field Kalar and somehow made a family with people who could never remember anything? Who named him? How did he ever learn to talk? He had a son, but how did he remember from the pregnancy of presumably someone else and even know a child was his? How do you begin a bond with someone you can't remember from day-to-day?
Agree with everything you said. The version of Rigel 7 and what happened during the 2254 mission portrayed in the Marvel "Early Voyages" comic book was way more interesting and believable than this.
This ep kind of hit home for me.
My mother has short term memory issues and luckily she remembers many things from before her short term memory issues started, but I have to repeat many things several times before she starts to even to begin to remember.
It really sucks to lose your memory, that's one of the aspects of human aging that I don't look forward to, and I wish to genetically edit / fix out of humanity so that nobody's loved ones ever have to suffer this issue ever again.
My mother has short term memory issues and luckily she remembers many things from before her short term memory issues started, but I have to repeat many things several times before she starts to even to begin to remember.
It really sucks to lose your memory, that's one of the aspects of human aging that I don't look forward to, and I wish to genetically edit / fix out of humanity so that nobody's loved ones ever have to suffer this issue ever again.
This reminds me of the ending of 50 First Dates, where Drew Barrymore's character loses her memory, every morning, from the time following her accident many years ago...ends up having children. How could you subject someone to that sort of existence? Imagine waking up thinking you're single in your early 20s only to find out you're 30-something...and pregnant. That has always bothered me about that movie and this episode reminded me of that.
Fair points. I can always depend on you to call out the BS. Although, in fairness, this is actually a problem with "The Cage, " isn't it?
This episode reminded me so much as the Stargate Atlantis season 4 episode "Tabula Rasa". that episode dealt with the Atlantis expedition losing their memories as well.
Definitely my favourite episode of the season so far. It's nice to have a classic "planet with weird stuff going on" ep every now and then.
I honestly think that's Una, who is unfortunately very blandly written/conceived.
Well, saw the ep and I loved seeing Pike with a heart. Pike is the most mature and developed soul of all the Starship Captains so far. Spock tells us "Emotions are not Facts." Sorry Spock but this is untrue. Spock has never been taught that truth is accessed through the heart. He thinks emotions are the heart and that facts are truth. Both statements are untrue. The heart is accessed through self reflection, meditation, prayer, thus gaining insight. I loved an episode that is not about the latest technical gizmo as well. Facts are things determined by scientists and historians whom we well know can lie to us. Your heart is your connection to your super consciousness or God or what have you. Scientists lie with statistics all the time, and history is two truths with a lie stuck in the middle. History is propaganda. Beware.
We know that an emotional memory is much more permanent than a memorization of facts. I love Pike in love and not with the latest Space Babe. I also love that his girlfriend is not a supermodel, but a pretty ordinary lady.
Chapel seems to be back from her fellowship on Vulcan. If M'Benga is gone surely there is another doctor on the ship.
We know that an emotional memory is much more permanent than a memorization of facts. I love Pike in love and not with the latest Space Babe. I also love that his girlfriend is not a supermodel, but a pretty ordinary lady.
Chapel seems to be back from her fellowship on Vulcan. If M'Benga is gone surely there is another doctor on the ship.
Ortegas is supposed to be the wise cracking baby Chekov trope.
Saw it. Liked it well enough. Probably my least favourite of the season, so far. But, I'd still give it a solid 7.
I enjoyed the little bit more they gave us of Erica, plus the whole episode had a kinda retro feel to it, for better or worse.
Was interesting to revisit a planet from The Cage and flesh it out a little more.
Bonus points for some really nice shots of The Enterprise.
I enjoyed the little bit more they gave us of Erica, plus the whole episode had a kinda retro feel to it, for better or worse.
Was interesting to revisit a planet from The Cage and flesh it out a little more.
Bonus points for some really nice shots of The Enterprise.
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