Four months between Ghosts Of Ilirya and Una's arrest.
She could have been on remand preparing her case for a while.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x02 - "Ad Astra Per Aspera"
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Four months between Ghosts Of Ilirya and Una's arrest.
She could have been on remand preparing her case for a while.
Given that Una feels it is an inherent part of her culture, it's not clear if she'd want to do it to her own children or if it's even legal. Presumably she isn't immune from Federation law even though she apparently now has I guess the equivalent of a Presidential pardon.
But Starfleet is also bound by Federation laws as a Federation organization.
Unless Starships count as their own city-states and this is like sanctuary cities providing protection against ICE.
Clearly the idea of "state rights" doesn't exist, because presumably the Illyrians who chose to stay in the Federation would be able to pass local "state" laws to allow for augmentation within their borders irrespective of Federation law.
Interestingly though there is a neurological structure in the gut that seems to result in "gut feelings"
Gut Feelings–the "Second Brain" in Our Gastrointestinal Systems [Excerpt] - Scientific American
It can be both. The Lawyer Neera probably WANTED the Book to use as a prop for effect when she had Captain Batel read from it in the Courtroom at the Trial and especially when she thump it down on the Judges Bench when she finished her summation. It was there, and needed for a valid reason.I will admit that the one part of the episode that I had to suspend disbelief was that the Starfleet Uniform Code Of Justice was a book and not on a Padd. That took it from a 10 to a 9
They make it seem like it's some sacrosanct law though. Like, I know in the real world people go to other countries to receive surgeries/experimental medication not approved in their home countries... so is there anything stopping someone from just border hopping to get augmented?
It seems like it's some heinous crime to these people, but it's not really treated as such, which is also a bit of dissonance for me.
But maybe that's the point - no one in the Federation actually cares and the allegory is that it's the equivalent of an old segregation law.
The Masterpiece Society was horrific, though. Picard was amused at horrific genetic apartheid and caste systems.
I mean, Bashir's parents went to a sketchy non-Federation doctor for it.
Nazis did not need genetic engineering to be Nazis,
It is a crime to border hop and get genetic engineering work done, as seen in DS9.
The only way this could happen legally. This is what over-arching legislation like the European Convention on Human Rights covers. Individual nations depart from the convention, either intentionally, accidentally, or negligently, and then the court has to assess which law prevails. I suppose State and Federal courts have similar issues in the USA.
This was a fairly enjoyable episode, a crazy blunt allegory, acted with aplomb, but the Starfleet ban is clearly drafted ludicrously widely and the excuse of a war on one of the Federation worlds 300 years ago is very strange. They talk about arresting a 10 year old, and then what? Put him in a concentration camp? That's very silly. They keep glossing over why the doctors can't detect genetic alterations from standard Starfleet medical exams.
I feel like Trek leaned more into robotics than genetics. Like Geordi and his Visor, Picard's heart implant, etc. They don't really talk about just cloning new organs which we in real life seem closer to doing than creating mecha-hearts.
Klingons and Romulans are surgically altered to look human. I think only Seska was said to have genetically altered herself to appear Bajoran instead of Cardassian (until Nurse Chapel's injections in SNW).
Janeway and B'Elana once had a conversation about whether or the doctor had a soul. Janeway felt he did and B'E felt altering his programing to this point wasn't the same as giving him a soul. Spock basically puts his soul in McCoy at the end of Wrath of Khan. Picard basically had his soul transferred into the golem in PIC and once had it uploaded to the computer in TNG before that in "Lonely Among Us".
As much as people claim Star Trek is all atheist, some type of "soul" exists in canon even if they call it an "energy pattern" "life force" or katra or pagh.
Neera: You made these laws to destroy us. Why? Because you are afraid of our gifts. Because we are different. Humanity has always feared that which is different. Well, I'm here to tell you, to tell the galaxy, you're right to fear us! We are the future! We are the ones who will inherit the Federation! And anyone who stands in our way will suffer the same fate as these officers you see before you! Today was meant to be a display of your power. Instead, I give you a glimpse of the devastation my race can unleash upon yours! Let this be a warning to the galaxy. And to my augment brothers and sisters out there, I say this: no more hiding. No more suffering. You have lived in the shadows in shame and fear for too long. Come out. Join me. Fight together in a brotherhood of our kind! A new tomorrow, that starts today!
Indeed. And then Chakotay's pattern became separate and could possess things.
The episode "Cathexis" from Season 1.
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The physical book was imo in light of TOS: Court Martial with books over tech.
Both had similarities in the sense of inherent injustices built into the federation.
All in all I loved the episode. I was wondering when/if they would bring up and old law that being a descendent of genetically modified person (ie. La’an) was not allowed to be in star fleet, which was changed. Maybe not exactly along those lines, but you get what I mean.
Both had similarities in the sense of inherent injustices built into the federation.
All in all I loved the episode. I was wondering when/if they would bring up and old law that being a descendent of genetically modified person (ie. La’an) was not allowed to be in star fleet, which was changed. Maybe not exactly along those lines, but you get what I mean.
Finally got a chance to see this. Great episode, but I don't love the courtroom ones like some so I'm not putting it on a pedestal and declaring it the best Trek in 20+ years or anything like that. It was solid.
The lawyer was no Sam Cogley, and the weak point of the episode was the way the Vulcan sat back and let her win. The court listened to her invent a completely fabricated story, essentially twisting the testimony to suit her argument, if you want to call it that. Despite the law, Una explained fully why she joined Starfleet, and wanted to from the time she was young a child, and it wasn't to seek asylum. What's more, at the time she joined, she was almost certainly unaware that she could seek asylum this way or she would have done it years earlier instead of living the lie. Pike, despite protecting her, never offered her asylum IAW starfleet regulations and she never asked for it under that auspice. All of this would have been revealed with three simple questions, two to Una and one to Pike after calling him to testify. Una herself admits it in the transporter room at the end- everything her lawyer did was a surprise to her. The Vulcan lawyer could have torpedoed this whole case like Kruge did the Grissom over Genesis, and it wouldn't even have been a lucky shot.
I just choose to believe the Vulcan prosecutor wasn't the heartless bastard we were led to believe, and was willing to go along with the others to 'do the right thing,' and gift her the win on the technicality. Starfleet regulations gave her a tiny loophole and she flew a starship through it.
Coupla side notes:
1. I wish to God they would texture the uniform stripes somehow. They continue to look like shiny duct tape glued onto the uniforms.
2. Love the scene where Pike dumps the refused drink into his glass and goes bottoms up. He probably really needed it at that point.
This show continues to rock it, best nu-Trek by a country mile. I'll admit to being slightly leaky around the eyeballs at the end of this one. Let's get the obligatory 'Captain Kirk' time travel episode out of the way next week and rock the rest of the season!
The lawyer was no Sam Cogley, and the weak point of the episode was the way the Vulcan sat back and let her win. The court listened to her invent a completely fabricated story, essentially twisting the testimony to suit her argument, if you want to call it that. Despite the law, Una explained fully why she joined Starfleet, and wanted to from the time she was young a child, and it wasn't to seek asylum. What's more, at the time she joined, she was almost certainly unaware that she could seek asylum this way or she would have done it years earlier instead of living the lie. Pike, despite protecting her, never offered her asylum IAW starfleet regulations and she never asked for it under that auspice. All of this would have been revealed with three simple questions, two to Una and one to Pike after calling him to testify. Una herself admits it in the transporter room at the end- everything her lawyer did was a surprise to her. The Vulcan lawyer could have torpedoed this whole case like Kruge did the Grissom over Genesis, and it wouldn't even have been a lucky shot.
I just choose to believe the Vulcan prosecutor wasn't the heartless bastard we were led to believe, and was willing to go along with the others to 'do the right thing,' and gift her the win on the technicality. Starfleet regulations gave her a tiny loophole and she flew a starship through it.
Coupla side notes:
1. I wish to God they would texture the uniform stripes somehow. They continue to look like shiny duct tape glued onto the uniforms.
2. Love the scene where Pike dumps the refused drink into his glass and goes bottoms up. He probably really needed it at that point.
This show continues to rock it, best nu-Trek by a country mile. I'll admit to being slightly leaky around the eyeballs at the end of this one. Let's get the obligatory 'Captain Kirk' time travel episode out of the way next week and rock the rest of the season!
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The specifically stated the human woman sitting on the tribunal was the Starfleet JAG.
Having worked with multiple kinds of shitty tape I feel this is a poor comparison.
Darwin
Just a little later than that, like when the brain is forming
"Universal law is for lackeys. Context is for kings."
Darwin. Gagarin. The episode sucked. I'm glad I remember anything about it.