And Spot the cat joined
Ok. What is the chance of a Picard spinoff?
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That's Captain Spot to you.
Commodore, tyvm
Ah, yes. Ensign Kim's current commanding officer.
Not really, no, IMHO.
Except he won't be. There are zero consequences for his actions.
There's zero evidence of that. Especially amidst the fact that Q is placing Jack on trial.
If Legacy happens, who says the Jack's Borg experience from "The Last Generation" won't be explored?
Michael, not Mikey. And her dialogue is meant to make it clear that Michael was not in her right state of mind.
I do agree with this, but I also think that Legacy would need to do a lot of work to bring a greater level of specificity to Jack as a character than PIC S3 did.
Not good enough. He needs to pay for his crimes and the deaths caused by him.
Because he will be the hero. No follow up; just a pat on the back, past forgiven. Surface level.
I think if Matalas is able to make Legacy, he's going to have a different set of artistic goals than he did with PIC S3, and I think those goals could encompass doing something more complex with Jack.
Jack was controlled by the Borg when he went there and didn't have free will. Simple writing fix. There's nothing that contradicts that in the episode itself. It showed him drawn towards the collective and his programming prevented him from firing at her.
Picard was the hero in TNG and still had to face the consequences of his time as Locutus.
I don't even think that's a "writing fix." The text of "Vox" seemed pretty clear to me that once Troi opened the Red Door, the Borg Queen was able to mind-mojo him (witness his ranting about perfection purpose), mind-controlled him into coming to Jupiter, and then used a mental block in him to prevent him from firing at her. The guy was clearly under the influence of Borg mind control the entire time.
He is still culpable. Death. He should feel bad for what he caused.
Really? One whole episode is "facing consequences?"
Paris was demoted to ensign there for a while on Voyager.
Worf was told by Sisko that his decision to save Jadzia over completing an intelligence mission would probably be a black mark on his record that would preclude him advancing to captain during DS9. I always thought it might have been part of the reason the DS9 writers tried to move Worf to being an ambassador at the end of the series. But the TNG movies basically ignore all of it, and so does Picard season 3.
You're not even trying to hide your bias. Most people at least try to put up a front. Though, to be honest, I'm not going to say what you think I will about it: I like that you put out there where you stand. You're naked about your open hypocrisy.
And I have no doubt that if Jack ever said, "I'm trying to save you all!", you'd find a way to say, "Yeah! But that's different!" But you'd also leave out the silent part, "Because he's male!"
That's why you'd rather not have Seven be the star of the show, even though she would be the Captain. And, in any other Star Trek series, -- including Discovery -- you'd think the show should focus on the Captain who would be the Main Hero. To say you're okay with a different type of arrangement in Picard but not Discovery is a double-standard. There's no two ways about it, from what I can see.
If it's not a double-standard, then I'd love to hear your explanation for how it's not. With specifics. Absolute Candor.
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Burnham was imprisoned for several months and then was a pariah for the rest of the first season until the end. Sisko is still with the Prophets.
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