Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"

[Richard S. Ta]

I don't mind Seven getting a promotion, but I didn't really like how she could assign herself a significant other as her XO.

I didn't like the rapid promotion of Jack either.

Jack called out the nepotism, but when Picard said 'It's all you...". No, Picard, this is pure nepotism. Jack barely did shit. He made a lot of trouble and committed a lot of crimes and got pardoned and fast-tracked because of you, Picard.

But these are niggles.

I have to say, there's little beyond Seven herself that would make me want to tune in to an Enterprise G show.

 

[Racefuel]

I was always curious how a blinking field of LED’s was supposed to tell you something

 

[Nerys Myk]

through the usual tireless hours of Starfleet interface testing

They should just fire Vulcans at enemy ships instead of torpedoes.

 

[cooleddie74]

The Vulcan FU.

 

[fireproof78]

Jack called out the nepotism, but when Picard said 'It's all you...". No, Picard, this is pure nepotism. Jack barely did shit. He made a lot of trouble and committed a lot of crimes and got pardoned and fast-tracked because of you, Picard.

Yeah. That's annoying.

I was always curious how a blinking field of LED’s was supposed to tell you something

Server rack?

 

[Racefuel]

I don't mind Seven getting a promotion, but I didn't really like how she could assign herself a significant other as her XO.

I didn't like the rapid promotion of Jack either.

Jack called out the nepotism, but when Picard said 'It's all you...". No, Picard, this is pure nepotism. Jack barely did shit. He made a lot of trouble and committed a lot of crimes and got pardoned and fast-tracked because of you, Picard.

But these are niggles.

I have to say, there's little beyond Seven herself that would make me want to tune in to an Enterprise G show.

There’s a lot of species and adventures that are hinted at in Picard.

The Hirogen in the Alpha quadrant!

Cardassians and Bajor!

Theres a lot of meat on the bone for a 25th century series, it doesn’t have to all be memberberry syrup

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't mind Seven getting a promotion, but I didn't really like how she could assign herself a significant other as her XO.

They’re not dating anymore according to Terry.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I was always curious how a blinking field of LED’s was supposed to tell you something

Morse code.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

There’s a lot of species and adventures that are hinted at in Picard.

The Hirogen in the Alpha quadrant!

Cardassians and Bajor!

Theres a lot of meat on the bone for a 25th century series, it doesn’t have to all be memberberry syrup

They'd have to flash up the Titan bridge a bit to make me want to spend another Season there.

 

[Scionz]

NX-01: 10 years.
NCC-1701: 40 years.
NCC-1701-A: 7 years.
NCC-1701-B: unknown in canon but could be as long as 36 years.
NCC-1701-C: unknown in canon but possibly 11 years.
NCC-1701-D: 8 years.
NCC-1701-E: unknown, but at least 10 years.
NCC-1701-F: possibly 15 years.


So of the first eight warp-capable Starfleet vessels to carry the name Enterprise only two are confirmed to have lasted longer than a decade, one other might have made it to the age of 36 and two didn't even make it to 10. A real mixed bag and I can't imagine being named Enterprise is the explanation because, you know, wild adventures and wacky hijinks in deep space.

Enterprise E was semi-canon 15-16 yearsold .... 2371 (year before First Contact, per Geordi's comment in that movie) to no later than 2386. We know it served as late as 2384 (Prodigy) and Picard left in 2381 (about 18 months after Nemesis give or take). Worf was Captain of the Enterprise E for around 3-4 years

Funny thing, is, Picard was Captain of the Enterprise E for way longer than the Enterprise D. 11-12 years vs 7-8. But I think its been inferred that Picard spent a lot of the "D" era exploring, but (and we saw this as early as Season 6 and 7 of TNG) a lot of the Enterprise E era on security issues and putting out fires. So maybe the D resonates with him more.

The 1701-A had only 7 years as the "A", but as the Yorktown, which yes is technically non-canon, but was creative intent and has been utilized in many relevant licensed work referring to the A in the 21st century, it almost certainly served far longer.

We know that at least SOME Connie-refit served as late as 2366 (Wolf 359), and obviously many, many Miranda and variants served deep into the 2370s. So maybe some Connie-refits got upgraded.

 

[Racefuel]

Enterprise E was semi-canon 15-16 yearsold .... 2371 (year before First Contact, per Geordi's comment in that movie) to no later than 2386. We know it served as late as 2384 (Prodigy) and Picard left in 2381 (about 18 months after Nemesis give or take). Worf was Captain of the Enterprise E for around 3-4 years

Funny thing, is, Picard was Captain of the Enterprise E for way longer than the Enterprise D. 11-12 years vs 7-8. But I think its been inferred that Picard spent a lot of the "D" era exploring, but (and we saw this as early as Season 6 and 7 of TNG) a lot of the Enterprise E era on security issues and putting out fires. So maybe the D resonates with him more.

The 1701-A had only 7 years as the "A", but as the Yorktown, which yes is technically non-canon, but was creative intent and has been utilized in many relevant licensed work referring to the A in the 21st century, it almost certainly served far longer.

We know that at least SOME Connie-refit served as late as 2366 (Wolf 359), and obviously many, many Miranda and variants served deep into the 2370s. So maybe some Connie-refits got upgraded.

The Enterprise-D had a relatively peaceful life outside the Borg.

The E-E had the Borg, the Son’a, the Dominion War and then the Remans.

Plus the E-E is where he lost his family, first Data and then Riker and Troi.

I can see why the D has warmer memories than the E

 

[Richard S. Ta]

They’re not dating anymore according to Terry.

Yeah, that's why I said significant other. But even having an ex, a rather fresh ex it has to be said, as their XO would be a severe problem for a Captain don't you think?

I mean like the XO being the Riker. The one that goes into the firing line so that they Captain doesn't have to.

 

[XCV330]

I was always curious how a blinking field of LED’s was supposed to tell you something

It can work very well, oddly enough. This is me and one of my instruments. a groovebox called a Circuit Tracks. It can control two built in synthesizers, control two more via MIDI and three drum/rhythm sequences, live without having to use an audio workstation on a computer. If I had to read a screen, there'd be no way to do it. But once you get used to the buttons, what the colors mean and so forth, its far easier to operate. Obviously it wouldn't work for everything but I actually could see how the old jolly-rancher buttons on a dedicated TOS workstation could work.

 

[fireproof78]

It can work very well, oddly enough. This is me and one of my instruments. a groovebox called a Circuit Tracks. It can control two built in synthesizers, control two more via MIDI and three drum/rhythm sequences, live without having to use an audio workstation on a computer. If I had to read a screen, there'd be no way to do it. But once you get used to the buttons, what the colors mean and so forth, its far easier to operate. Obviously it wouldn't work for everything but I actually could see how the old jolly-rancher buttons on a dedicated TOS workstation could work.

Someone should rig up the TOS panels and create a control interface that makes sense.

 

[Racefuel]

It can work very well, oddly enough. This is me and one of my instruments. a groovebox called a Circuit Tracks. It can control two built in synthesizers, control two more via MIDI and three drum/rhythm sequences, live without having to use an audio workstation on a computer. If I had to read a screen, there'd be no way to do it. But once you get used to the buttons, what the colors mean and so forth, its far easier to operate. Obviously it wouldn't work for everything but I actually could see how the old jolly-rancher buttons on a dedicated TOS workstation could work.

That’s a fuckin banger of a real world example

 

[cooleddie74]

Hey, for four seasons I couldn't tell how a handheld conglomeration of glowing Lego blocks was supposed to tell Al Calavicci what Ziggy had computed back at Project Quantum Leap but in-universe Al seemed to understand the little flashes the Ziggy interface made.

 

[XCV330]

Someone should rig up the TOS panels and create a control interface that makes sense.

The same company that made this one, Novation, makes a more general midi controller with more buttons that isn't a built in instrument, but technically you could use it (Launchpad X) through midi cables to control various functions if you really wanted a working TOS style control panel

 

[Citiprime]

NX-01: 10 years.
NCC-1701: 40 years.
NCC-1701-A: 7 years.
NCC-1701-B: unknown in canon but could be as long as 36 years.
NCC-1701-C: unknown in canon but possibly 11 years.
NCC-1701-D: 8 years.
NCC-1701-E: unknown, but at least 10 years.
NCC-1701-F: possibly 15 years.


So of the first eight warp-capable Starfleet vessels to carry the name Enterprise only two are confirmed to have lasted longer than a decade, one other might have made it to the age of 36 and two didn't even make it to 10. A real mixed bag and I can't imagine being named Enterprise is the explanation because, you know, wild adventures and wacky hijinks in deep space.

I found it hard to believe that the Enterprise-D/Galaxy Class is considered "ancient" (Raffi's exact words) by the same organization that used the Miranda, Oberth, and Excelsior classes for over a century.

 

[fireproof78]

The same company that made this one, Novation, makes a more general midi controller with more buttons that isn't a built in instrument, but technically you could use it (Launchpad X) through midi cables to control various functions if you really wanted a working TOS style control panel

I wish I understood it.

 

[Scionz]

The Enterprise-D had a relatively peaceful life outside the Borg.

The E-E had the Borg, the Son’a, the Dominion War and then the Remans.

Plus the E-E is where he lost his family, first Data and then Riker and Troi.

I can see why the D has warmer memories than the E

It's funny from a Godlike perspective that in order to entertain us and provide us with drama, producers created a 38 year storyline stretching from 2364-2401 that started innocently enough with a Wagon Train to the Stars exploring the unknown, but within a few years turned into a series or rolling massive security crisis that saw previously unknown destruction in the Starfleet universe. The most dangerous aliens ever. The largest war in the history of the known galaxy. Several extinction level events narrowly averted.

For our amusement, the world of Star Trek has been put through 38 years of utter horror, so yeah, no surprise Picard remembers the simple days before the Dominion tried to kill everyone, or the Borg tried to kill everyone, or a Supernova did kill almost everyone Romulan, or interdimensional sythns almost killed everyone, so on and so forth. Back when they painted nudes of lower ranking crewmembers in their leisure time and the senior staff doubled as a Shakespeare troupe.